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Feds to File Lawsuit Over Arizona Immigration Law
Townhall ^ | Bob Christie

Posted on 07/06/2010 9:38:06 AM PDT by Anita1

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To: Anita1
One of the many factors that I am afraid are leading us to Civil War II. And I think Obama and his minions are hoping for a clash. Then they will order martial law and whatever else they can get their hands on to turn this blessed country into a dictatorship.

Could Arizona take this suit to the Supreme Court as a state's rights issue?

21 posted on 07/06/2010 10:27:54 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: Gabrial

Um...yeah. LOL He’s so pathetic.


22 posted on 07/06/2010 10:30:40 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: desertfreedom765

No just the few smarter and more dangerous ones.


23 posted on 07/06/2010 10:31:35 AM PDT by BigGaloot
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To: Libertynotfree

You can’t sneak into their countries for any reason. Their borders are secure.


24 posted on 07/06/2010 10:36:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: thethirddegree
DOJ has time to do this but fails to protect white voters in the New Black Panther voter intimidation case...

Department of Justice? What an Orwellian joke. It should be called the Department of Politically Correct Gibberish... Department of PIGs ...

25 posted on 07/06/2010 10:36:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (There is nothing unexpected about the failure of socialism/communism.freeper pieceofthepuzzle)
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To: thethirddegree
DOJ has time to do this but fails to protect white voters in the New Black Panther voter intimidation case...

Department of Justice? What an Orwellian joke. It should be called the Department of Politically Correct Gibberish... Department of PIGs ...

26 posted on 07/06/2010 10:36:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (There is nothing unexpected about the failure of socialism/communism.freeper pieceofthepuzzle)
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To: BigGaloot

25% of felons in prisons are illegals, so I don’t know how much more dangerous they could be.


27 posted on 07/06/2010 11:01:36 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: BigGaloot

25% of felons in prisons are illegals, so I don’t know how much more dangerous they could be.

Do you live in a Southern Border state? You might see things differently if you did.


28 posted on 07/06/2010 11:02:34 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: DJ MacWoW
He says Americas borders are too vast to secure.

If he's not up to the job, get the heck out of the office! (And take his quislings with him.)

29 posted on 07/06/2010 11:05:15 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB)
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To: calcowgirl

Quitting would be in character as there was a thread a few months back about how he’s never completed anything that he’s ever done. I hope it holds true this time too.


30 posted on 07/06/2010 11:15:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: BigGaloot

Are there a lot of Canadians sneaking across the border? Didn’t think so.


31 posted on 07/06/2010 11:20:04 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Anita1

“The law makes it a state crime for legal immigrants to not carry their immigration documents”

This statement is not an accurate account of the trespassing section of the law. The trespassing section of the Arizona law indicates that the person must be in violation of UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1304(e) OR 1306(a). I am not sure what those sections of US law refer. Essentially, the state law adds a new penalty for violation of sections 1304(e) and 1306(a). I think there is plenty of precedent for adding a state law violation to a federal law violation.

According this review, the Arizona law does not empower local government. Rather the law restricts local government essentially from sanctuary policies. Local governments are complaining because the law imposes unfunded mandates. I think it is a stretch to say that the law imposes unfunded mandates. The law does preempt local sanctuary laws and policies but state law takes precedence over local laws except where prohibited by state constitutions. The unfunded mandate may be possible if citizens sue a local government for non compliance. I do not think there is anything unconstitutional about granting standing. Environmental laws grant standing to third parties with great harm to the economy. No one has ever indicated that third party standing is unconstitutional.

http://www.michiganlawreview.org/articles/the-overlooked-significance-of-arizona-s-new-immigration-law


32 posted on 07/06/2010 11:36:34 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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I wish there was a “Like” button for every comment I like.

A great one, DJ MacWoW!

Let’s Hope O is consistent about Doing Nothing!

- and Not Do Anymore Harm to our nation!


33 posted on 07/06/2010 12:31:02 PM PDT by Anita1 ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.")
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To: Anita1

Ignorant question here but how often does the Federal Government file suit against state laws? What are some examples?


34 posted on 07/06/2010 12:34:51 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I bet your ignorance is far outmatched by those unable to answer your question. ;-)


35 posted on 07/06/2010 1:49:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB)
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To: BigGaloot

I live in soCal and I’m tired of all the illegals from Canada crowding into the emergency room for regular medical treatment when I have to take my neighbor in.


36 posted on 07/06/2010 1:52:34 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

This is the problem with most people’s arguments.

They say that it is to keep islamic terrorists out of the country, but when you point out the Canadian border can literally be walked across at any point outside Niagra Falls, the argument suddenly shifts to overflowing Emergency Rooms.


37 posted on 07/06/2010 3:18:30 PM PDT by BigGaloot
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To: BigGaloot
Are you serious or being facetious?
Do you see news of Canadian drug smugglers sneaking across the border or using our services?
38 posted on 07/06/2010 3:18:32 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Good question Wyatt’s Torch - I don’t know - maybe someone else might know.

I have never heard of it - which is why I thought it is so trange.


39 posted on 07/06/2010 3:57:49 PM PDT by Anita1 ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.")
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To: BigGaloot

You are mixing one person’s with another. I want illegals kept out. I have several reasons. And yes the terrorists can come in via various ways. I want those ways shut down.


40 posted on 07/06/2010 4:22:27 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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