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To: kabar
>>>>>Legalization is amnesty.

I never said it wasn't. I said that Reagan called it "legalization", not amnesty as you posted. And yes, it was meant to be a one time deal.

The more relevant point which you ignored entirely, was Fat Teddy gutting the IRCA of 1986 of its enforcement and sanction funding. This turned a limited grant of amnesty to an original estimate of some 300K into a blanket amnesty. A policy that continues to drive the open borders crowd till this day.

Reagan never envisioned the IRCA of 1986 as a blanket amnesty. Period.

39 posted on 07/11/2010 10:44:59 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
I never said it wasn't. I said that Reagan called it "legalization", not amnesty as you posted. And yes, it was meant to be a one time deal.

Legalization is amnesty. It is a distinction without a difference in much the same way that people use "undocumented worker" to describe an illegal alien. Ed Meese is the one who said that their administration admitted it was an amnesty, not me. Reagan, in his signing statement said the following":

" We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans."

BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY 93 (8th ed. 2004) (defining the term “amnesty” using IRCA as the quintessential example).

Reagan never envisioned the IRCA of 1986 as a blanket amnesty. Period.

But it was a blanket amnesty in much the same way that Hagel-Martinez and McCain-Kennedy were. I have read and compared all three. In 1986 you had to be here five years, learn English, etc. In fact much of the language in the other amnesty bills were lifted verbatim from the "Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986". "8 USC 1101 note"

60 posted on 07/11/2010 3:13:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Reagan Man
Reagan said as much himself in a televised debate with Democratic presidential nominee Walter Mondale in 1984. "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," he said.
68 posted on 07/11/2010 3:49:57 PM PDT by kabar
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