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To: GonzoII

Realistically, we are not going to be deporting long time ‘residents’ with US citizen children. Even if we could, huge sections of many cities in the SW would become ghost towns with all the problems attached. We should trade amnesty with fines for some in return for true border security, deportation of many, an end to government services for illegals and the automatic citizenship for children born to illegals in the future.


48 posted on 07/11/2010 11:30:06 AM PDT by metalcor
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To: metalcor

I would support the childdren initiative under the circumstances that a law is implementd disallowing any future in-country births from automatic citizenship and if the parents can show proof of employment and medical insurance.


49 posted on 07/11/2010 11:32:48 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: metalcor
Realistically, we are not going to be deporting long time ‘residents’ with US citizen children. Even if we could,

That is reality like it or not...and Sarah is smart enough to know it...

87 posted on 07/11/2010 11:22:15 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: metalcor

“an end to government services for illegals and the automatic citizenship for children born to illegals in the future.”

Unfortunately, you’ll have to repeal the 14th amendment (not a bad idea since it was not legally ratified to begin with) or supersede it with another amendment. Like it or not the language is:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

The language doesn’t say “ all persons legally born in the US” or in any form or fashion exclude the children of illegal aliens. The only good thing about the 14th is that it was used by SCOTUS to apply 2nd to the states, but even that is being Daleyized.

Any new law will have to include removal of the courts jurisdiction by Congress or the courts will legislate from the bench and keep the wets on the dole.


88 posted on 07/11/2010 11:32:47 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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