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Large Hadron Collider Rival Tevatron 'Has Found Higgs boson', say Rumours
Telegraph ^ | July 12, 2010 | Tom Chivers

Posted on 07/13/2010 5:25:48 AM PDT by lbryce

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To: lbryce

Would be a riot if the “old” Tevatron found the Higgs Boson when the Euros spent billions of dollars building the LHC when one of its primary missios if the find the Higgs.


21 posted on 07/13/2010 5:43:56 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: I cannot think of a name
So I can expect to have my jetpack, when?
22 posted on 07/13/2010 5:44:54 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: Red Badger

Okay, Where did Higgs lose his Boson?................
:::
And HOW did it end up in Illinois???? Enquiring minds want to know.


23 posted on 07/13/2010 5:45:13 AM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: Red Badger

Okay, Where did Higgs lose his Boson?................
:::
And HOW did it end up in Illinois???? Enquiring minds want to know.


24 posted on 07/13/2010 5:45:14 AM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: C19fan

I would LOVE that. Go USA! :)


25 posted on 07/13/2010 5:45:57 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: C19fan
Thanks for the definitions!
What does this mean in practical terms - "Give matter mass?"

I'm still bewildered they discovered a particle can be two place at once.

26 posted on 07/13/2010 5:48:40 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: SnarlinCubBear
And HOW did it end up in Illinois???? Enquiring minds want to know.

Blago now admits that he had been using the Tevatron to do his hair.
27 posted on 07/13/2010 5:49:34 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: lbryce
Probably sometime after you drive your electric car to a parking lot where there are small ramps you drive onto that plug into the car and charge the battery while you are gone - at no charge.

Or saying it another way - don't hold your breath. Your great grankids, or great-great grandkids might do so.

28 posted on 07/13/2010 5:50:04 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

Good article in recent Scientific American regarding commercial fusion. Even if the science is figured out, the requisite technologies are not in place (materials science and mechanical engineering are not advanced enough to develop a durable containment vessel). What we would be left with is a short run very expensive toy demonstrating concept with a casing that is radioactive (in other words no advantage over fission).


29 posted on 07/13/2010 5:50:17 AM PDT by exhaustguy
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To: sirchtruth

The way to think about it is all the forces of nature are “transmitted” by a particle. For example, light is transmitted by a particle called a photon. All matter has mass so in particle physics there must be a particle that gives matter this property. What is called the Standard Theory of Particle Physics which describes three of the four fundamental forces of nature predicts there should be this particle governing mass.


30 posted on 07/13/2010 5:52:09 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: lbryce
They found Higgy-baby?

He was just in the study the whole time, with Zeus and Apollo!

31 posted on 07/13/2010 5:53:06 AM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I caught some of it okay, like “the” and “and” but the rest is a bit thick.


32 posted on 07/13/2010 5:53:23 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson" to devastating economic arguments at hand.)
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To: lbryce

Is this the theme of the fourth “Pirates” flick?

(No, that would be “The Search For Higgs’ Bosun”)


33 posted on 07/13/2010 5:58:56 AM PDT by mikrofon (Probably near Hadron's Wall...)
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To: exhaustguy

Yea, I’m sure we’ll never live long enough to see it become practical.

The main reason I’d like to see it happen is that all the oil in the Middle East would instantly be worth about a tenth as much as it is now. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of maniacs.


34 posted on 07/13/2010 6:01:05 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: lbryce
ΣΣΣ   !
35 posted on 07/13/2010 6:01:41 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Two years already?)
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To: C19fan
What is called the Standard Theory of Particle Physics which describes three of the four fundamental forces of nature predicts there should be this particle governing mass.

Ok, I see. So, if this theory is proven, are there known implications from this already in play?

Furthermore, on another vein, I don't understand this: If a cell is mostly "empty space" why is it objects appear to be solid? What causes this illusion or the cells to bound together?

Thanks for your input.

36 posted on 07/13/2010 6:02:52 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: SnarlinCubBear

It’s the Chicago Way.................


37 posted on 07/13/2010 6:03:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: sirchtruth

I am not sure if there are any practical implications of the current theory in terms of affecting our everyday lives. This is knowledge for knowledge’s sake. The Standard Theory makes predictions about the characteristics of the Higgs so if the “real” Higgs boson has characteristics outside the model then we need a new theory. The reason a cell appears solid is because of electromagnetism. For example, when a baseball hits a bat in the Standard Theory of the universie the two start to exchange photons and it is this exchange the drives the ball away from the bat.


38 posted on 07/13/2010 6:11:39 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: sirchtruth
Higgs Boson: The particle that gives matter mass;

Imagine being able to manipulate mass like we manipulate magnetism or electricity.

Imagine if we could turn a dial and make something that weighs a hundred thousand tons weigh 50 pounds, and float it in the sky with a helium ballon. Imagine an aircraft carrier dangling from a weather balloon.

39 posted on 07/13/2010 6:12:59 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: sirchtruth
Furthermore, on another vein, I don't understand this: If a cell is mostly "empty space" why is it objects appear to be solid? What causes this illusion or the cells to bound together?

Like charges repel one another. Each atom is surrounded by a cloud of electrons, and as these electrons move closer and closer together, they repel one another more and more strongly. That's the simple explanation.

40 posted on 07/13/2010 6:16:37 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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