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To: Red in Blue PA

It is just a matter of time before we have a homeowner who thinks his state’s castle doctrine law gives him the right to use deadly force against an intruder who turns out to be a law enforcement agent who doesn’t identify himself as such as quickly as he should.


7 posted on 07/14/2010 2:10:46 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

“It is just a matter of time before we have a homeowner who thinks his state’s castle doctrine law gives him the right to use deadly force against an intruder who turns out to be a law enforcement agent who doesn’t identify himself as such as quickly as he should.”

Well, then the law enforcemnt agent better identify himself better, if he doesn’t want to end up in a box. The risk is not on the homeowner if someone is breaking into his house without identifying themselves.


9 posted on 07/14/2010 2:19:48 PM PDT by cowtowney
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To: theBuckwheat

So, what about burglars breaking into a house shouting “police”?

They’re identifying themselves as police, but they’re not.

I think the solution would be that no LEO is allowed to break into a house.

Then you’ll know. If they’re breaking into your house, they’re not police, FBI, etc.


11 posted on 07/14/2010 2:21:45 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Actually, you do have the right to shoot at the real police if they are breaking into your house unless they have authority to break into your house and are not exceeding their authority (proper warrant and reason to be using that type of force, etc.). In other words, the police do not just have a right to break into a home.


16 posted on 07/14/2010 2:37:03 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: theBuckwheat
-- It is just a matter of time before we have a homeowner who thinks his state's castle doctrine law gives him the right to use deadly force against an intruder who turns out to be a law enforcement agent who doesn't identify himself as such as quickly as he should. --

It happens now. The results during the incident are mixed, and the results in post-incident legal action vary too.

18 posted on 07/14/2010 2:39:14 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: theBuckwheat

As I’ve told my friend: that’s what the fourth amendment is for.
By requiring a warrant to be obtained AND presented it forms a protocol that honors the property & rights of the suspected/accused AS WELL AS providing protection for the Public Servant who is executing the warrant. It is the only way that I can think of that preserves the right of the citizen to defense AS WELL AS preserving the rights of the Public Servant.


22 posted on 07/14/2010 2:44:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Very real conundrum. Innocent until proven guilty I guess, is the way ahead. Assuming survival.


35 posted on 07/14/2010 5:10:47 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: theBuckwheat

And your problem with this is?


37 posted on 07/15/2010 10:02:25 AM PDT by ammomajor
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To: theBuckwheat

it has happened before.


38 posted on 07/15/2010 10:32:16 AM PDT by melkor
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