Posted on 07/20/2010 7:31:34 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
(July 19) -- Joran van der Sloot, the Dutch native charged with killing a Peruvian woman and extorting money from the mother of missing U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, may have even more legal problems ahead.
Earlier this month, the National Enquirer reported on van der Sloot's alleged involvement in sex trafficking in Thailand. Now Peru's minister of justice has confirmed that Thai authorities are pursuing criminal charges against van der Sloot, according to CBS News.
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During his own investigation in Aruba, Copus heard rumors that "girls were taken out of Aruba to be used in the sex trade," he said. "There was supposedly a guy from Chicago there, a reputed mobster, who has been quoted as saying that a good [sex slave] is worth a quarter of a million dollars."
Copus told AOL News that while there is a possibility that Holloway, if kidnapped, was sold into slavery, he doubts she would still be alive today.
"Usually they'll dope the girls up so they have no concept of what they are doing," Copus explained, adding that once the women are deemed no longer useful, they often are killed.
"There is another seedy business out there called the snuff trade, where they sell or trade recordings of actual murders," he said. "That's the final exploitation."
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I’m having a hard time decoding what you’re saying.
Should Savage have linked that film from his website, or not, in your opinion?
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“but aren’t snuff films a bit of an urban legend?”
Good question but the trade in women exists. I spent time in South Korea and many of the bars focused on GIs are owned by organized crime. I saw women beat up by the owners while the police watched. Results of beatings, torture, drug use. You could sell a woman to them with no questions asked. If she didn’t have family to protect her then she had two choices, become a bar girl or die.
I met two American girls one day right outside Camp Humphreys. Maybe 17 or 18 yrs old and looked strung out. They were desperate for some food but when I suggested contacting authorities to get them some help they ran.
I don’t know about Thailand but have spoken with many people who were there and it is much worse. I don’t doubt for a minute that a market such as this exists.
Aruba and all the Carib islands, Mexico and other third world countries are not a safe places - especially for young women.
It would seem that the ‘connection’ was always there, but no one was making it.
Joran was a jet-set gambler. Each time that an incident occurred, it happened in conjunction with a visit to a gambling casino. Everyone seems to assume that he was a ‘successful’ gambler. I think it was just the opposite.
He lost. Most of the time. If you don’t pay your gambling debts, you end up as fishfood.
NOW I know how Joran paid his debts. The girl he killed in the must recent murder case didn’t find info about Natalie on his LAPTOP. (that was common knowledge and the girl likely already knew.)
IMHO, What she found was that Joran was about to SELL HER into the sex slave trade. So, he killed her.
What was great: Liam expressing the proper anger and resolution to deal with people that would take his daughter
What was not so great: the ending which felt slightly contrived - should have ended with the rescue of his daughter and fade out.
Other than that perfect: screw the liberals, there are some people we don't need to “try to understand”, we just need to kill them and get it over with.
Hardly surprising, but happy to hear they finally have the goods on this creep. People may go to Bangcock to visit, but when someone stays as long as VDS did, there’s a reason. The Dutch and Aruban cops and authorities should be ashamed of their own incompetence and corruption.
Yes. I believe that he should have.
I purposely chose to watch it after much thought, because I wanted to know the true nature of my enemy. It was more that I bargained for though, what happened was brutal, and watching it took something out of me. However, after having viewed that, I am under no illusion about those who wish us harm, unlike the president seems to be.
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‘However, after having viewed that, I am under no illusion about those who wish us harm, unlike the president seems to be.”
IMO there are those that wish us harm, and then there are those that have no value for life other than their own.
To them a pretty young girl is an opportunity to make money. There certainly is overlap in the two groups but there is a difference.
Very good points, but at the same time I can’t understand how such films could be viewed as entertainment...much less to the point of arousal. I mean, it would take one heck of a very sick mind to find something redeeming in that, really really sick, it’s frightening just to think about.
It would be oh so tragic if Van Der Sloot met his end in the same fashion as Jeffrey Dahmer did in prison. I realize he is a big guy, but I am not too sure how a white guy will fare in one of Peru’s most violent prisons, especially since he murdered a Puruvian woman.
The sex trade has been going on for years — in the 19th century Portland, Oregon was a big hub for it (victims shuttled through the maze of tunnels underneath the main city). It still goes on — usually Asian or East European women are victims. Sometimes women from the west are tricked and wind up in some isolated villa in the Middle East (they are lucky if all the guy wants is some variety of looks in his harem). If Holloway is alive one would hope an Arab bought her for a wife rather than her being used in some torture chamber somewhere in the world. No matter what, nobody will ever hear from her again.
ALL I can say is that we live in a messed up world.....
My guess is that if you were to be exposed to such films it would be out of the Islamic countries first because that is a culture which worships death, and secondly out of the drug cartels of South America.
Before 9-11 I remember seeing some films of the Taliban massacres, could not watch the whole thing. And I never watched the Daniel Pear execution, or the beheading of that other guy either.
And the the Moslem world was in uproar because we tortured them by making them put panties on their heads.
I totally agree with you. I am a WW2 history buff and I have studied the subject of Japanese human experiment facility Unit 731 in depth. I found out a movie had been made about the facility (Philosophy of a Knife) and watched it. While it featured actors and actresses being subjected to the barbaric experiments of these psychopathic scientists, it was still very disturbing. I do not know why someone would want to see the real thing.
And people called the movie Taken “melodramatic” and “sensationalist.”
I have only heard vague referneces to the human experimentation that was done during that time. I also heard that the nazis enaged in this as well. There is a very dark side to human beings it seems.
UHHHH, my daughter is going on an international trip, I DO NOT CARE that it is “just a movie” I live by the mantra trust no one. My daughter and her friends will watch it again before they go!!!!
Thanks for your answer.
Savage was providing the video NOT to be titillating, but educational.
This creep just needs to be offed, snuffed, killed, strangled asap. I don’t condone torture but I believe we can make an exception in this case.
I can think of some pretty graphic things that should be done to this monster. Most of them just won’t last long enough.
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