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To: topher

Interesting, but I also think that it may also be genetic and inherited. Sim[ply based on the fact that some of these people appear to have some kind of hormonal imbalance that makes them act effeminate and therefore easy to spot.


5 posted on 07/27/2010 11:29:15 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
Interesting, but I also think that it may also be genetic and inherited

How would such a gene propagate?

For millions of years, you are saying that a gene that was not conducive to heterosexual propagation somehow managed to remain in the population?

It's not a survivable gene. Maybe if humans had hermaphroditic reproduction, but...we don't. And artificial insemination is an exceedingly recent invention.

It's not genetic. There may be a predisposition based on hormonal production, but it would eventuate only under the right conditions, and then die out....because there would be no offspring. Or very few, in some unusual cases.

11 posted on 07/27/2010 11:35:02 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Cacique; massmike
Poster Massmike discussed the genetic connection on another thread. I will invite that poster to respond to your comments.

The remarks on the other thread (about the Fired California Biology Teacher) were above my knowledge.

So I will let that person respond if they desire too...

13 posted on 07/27/2010 11:36:47 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Cacique; nmh
If you want to make the case for genetics you need far more than subjective estimates of appearance, since most behavior is shaped and learned in social contexts.

On the other hand it is well to avoid the common trap of seeking one all-encompassing explanation or cause. Behavior follows general laws but may evolve in given individuals for any of diverse reasons.

There is no doubt that much homosexual behavior comes from straightforward traumatic and other conditioning experiences at vulnerable developmental stages. It is also likely that given the broad range of possible hormonal aberrations and developmental anomalies, some people find themselves predisposed to same sex attraction.

17 posted on 07/27/2010 11:40:42 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cacique

...some of these people appear to have some kind of hormonal imbalance that makes them act effeminate and therefore easy to spot.

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Have you not also encountered heterosexual men who acted effeminate and heterosexual women who seeme masculine? I have.


31 posted on 07/27/2010 12:02:37 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Cacique

Effeminate men and manly women are fighting an uphill battle when it comes to attracting the opposite sex.

I think most homosexuals were abused as children, and the rest just “gave up” competing with stronger males and more attractive females.


45 posted on 07/27/2010 12:22:02 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Cacique
Interesting, but I also think that it may also be genetic and inherited

Do you feel the same way about pedophiles and those sexually attracted to other species?

51 posted on 07/27/2010 12:31:38 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Cacique

That depends on what the cause and effect chain is. Does hormonal imbalance lead to homosexual thoughts and desires or is it the reverse. Mind is very powerful and how a person views themselves shapes their physicality in many ways.


68 posted on 07/27/2010 1:04:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Cacique

Interesting, but I also think that it may also be genetic and inherited. Sim[ply based on the fact that some of these people appear to have some kind of hormonal imbalance that makes them act effeminate and therefore easy to spot.


The one thing we should all agree on is that it is a behaviour. Once the this truth enters in, the discussion changes a lot.


78 posted on 07/27/2010 1:29:40 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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