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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"Gregg is one of those “moderate” libertarian-type Republicans who are soft (and I’m being charitable) on social issues. He voted against the Marriage Amendment, and voted for the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act (embryonic being the key point here). He also voted for the immigration reform bill in 2007, which is in line with the doctrinaire libertarian belief that “free people can sell their labour wherever they want.”"

That's an unfair and inaccurate characterization that attempts to put the (l)ibertarian wing of the GOP in a bad light.

Gregg is NOT a fiscal, national defense or social conservative...no matter what he says.

There are many dims in the South more conservative than this guy in every category.

Have an ax to grind with 50% of the GOP? Want us to go away so you can have the party to yourself?

18 posted on 07/30/2010 7:42:49 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner
That's an unfair and inaccurate characterization that attempts to put the (l)ibertarian wing of the GOP in a bad light.

I disagree, and if the libertarian wing of the GOP is in a bad light, it's because it's put itself there by basically trying to cut off one of the three legs of successful movement conservatism, all because they personally don't like "Bible thumpers."

And also, open borders IS a libertarian position - that's what genuine libertarians believe, that free people ought to be able to sell their labour wherever they can get the highest price for it. Whether "libertarian Republicans" (who tend not to be *as* rigidly doctrinaire on many of the more esoteric libertarian ideas, unlike the LP proper) believe this way...some do, some don't. Enough do to be a problem, however.

Gregg is NOT a fiscal, national defense or social conservative...no matter what he says.

Actually, he did manage to balance New Hampshire's budget while he was governour, and he has traditionally been an arch-opponent of government debt. He's also rated extremely highly by the Cato Institute for his voting record on economic and trade issues.

You ARE right about him not being a social conservative - which is the problem with him.

There are many dims in the South more conservative than this guy in every category.

True....and that's a testament to the value of the vaunted "libertarian wing of the GOP."

Have an ax to grind with 50% of the GOP? Want us to go away so you can have the party to yourself?

50%? LOL, I think you're overestimating yourselves quite a bit.

At any rate, no, I don't want you to go away. What I DO want is for libertarian Republicans to get over their little pissy party that they throw whenever a social conservative idea threatens to rear its head within the GOP. There are a lot more SoCons in the GOP than there are LibGOPers - learn to deal with it like you did back during the Reagan Years, and we'll all be able to work together to win. Compare everybody who opposes gay marriage and abortion with Mike Huckabee and tell them that they're RINO commies, and we'll continue to have the problems were having internally.

20 posted on 07/30/2010 7:54:20 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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