Quickly, before i nod off, i meant (as regards J.C.Bennet) the possibility of God sanctioning it. As regards all human oppression or use of force against other humans beings, especially those resulting in death, being evil, this is untenable. Tell the police to take a week off and you will see. The practical power of the State is the gun. If all were God controlled, none would need to be gun controlled. Bu that is not the case.
As for preventing abortion, if i understand you correctly, to be consistent, you must consider it to have been another wrong for America to have been involved in stopping the Holocaust by force.
Tomorrow.
Excellant debate....much food for thought. Thank you and those who posted. Great learning to be had here!
“As regards all human oppression or use of force against other humans beings, especially those resulting in death, being evil, this is untenable. Tell the police to take a week off and you will see.”
First, I think you fail to distinguish between the oppressive use of force, the is the initiation of force by an aggressor against the innocent and the defensive use of force. The initiation of the use of force is always wrong, the defensive use of force against those who initiate it is always justified.
If you truly believe the police prevent crime, I think you are naive. The police do not even pretend they prevent crime. The best they can do is to come in after a crime is committed, and if lucky, apprehend the criminals. And in this day and age, if the police would take a week off, it would prevent a lot of innocent people from having thouses broken into, they or their animals killed or brutalized, or the property stolen—by tht police.
I do not understand people who think people are only civilized because they fear the power of the state. Is that the only reason you are civilized? If the police take a week off, are you going to run around breaking into your neighbor’s homes and raping women? Are you the only civilized person in the country?
I’m sorry, but I do not have anything in common with people who need a government to keep them honest and decent. I don’t, and I don’t know anyone who does.
“As for preventing abortion, if i understand you correctly ...”
You don’t, but don’t worry about it.
Hank