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To: curiosity

The law that denied obama’s mother from conveying citizenship was later changed but the law was not retroactive. If obama was born in Kenya ,he is a kenyan national.

The 14th amendment grants citizenship to those born on American soil who have allegiance to the U.S.( SUBJECT TO)
(Ark’s parents had legally immigrated to the U.S.)

There has been no court legal document released to prove obama was born in Hawaii. ( press releases are not legal proof)

The Supreme Court has in a number of cases gave a definiton for Natural Born Citizen CHILDREN OF PARENTS WHO ARE U.S. CITIZENS
The Supreme Court in Wong KIm ARk declared Ark a native born citizen as his parents were not U.S. citizens prior to his birth.

obama has spent the last 2 years making sure that no one touches his birth or passport records, a reasonable person would wonder why. obama is using the legal system to “bury” his records so that they can not be used against him. If what you say is true and obama is a natural born citizen he would have no need to bury his birth and passport records so that they can not be used in court.


63 posted on 08/10/2010 12:41:32 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn
The law that denied obama’s mother from conveying citizenship was later changed but the law was not retroactive. If obama was born in Kenya ,he is a kenyan national.

Even under that law, if his mother's marraige were invalid, he'd still be a natural born citizen, as a single mother would pass along her citizenship regardless of age.

The 14th amendment grants citizenship to those born on American soil who have allegiance to the U.S.( SUBJECT TO) (Ark’s parents had legally immigrated to the U.S.)

Under the common law definition, when a person is present in a country, unless he is a diplomat or hostile invader, he owes allegence to that country when present in it, even if he isn't a citizen of it. It's in the Kim Wong Ark decision you allude to below.

There has been no court legal document released to prove obama was born in Hawaii. ( press releases are not legal proof)

The certification of live birth, photographs of which have been made public, constitutes prima facie proof before any court of law.

The Supreme Court has in a number of cases gave a definiton for Natural Born Citizen CHILDREN OF PARENTS WHO ARE U.S. CITIZENS

Only in cases where the child is born abroad. It has never required parental citizenship for a child born on US soil.

The Supreme Court in Wong KIm ARk declared Ark a native born citizen as his parents were not U.S. citizens prior to his birth.

It also made abdundantly clear in the dicta that he is a natural born citizen.

I defy you to find a single instance in which SCOTUS creates a distinction between native born and natural born.

69 posted on 08/10/2010 6:02:51 PM PDT by curiosity
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