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First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... What’s Happening?
Life Site News ^ | NEW YORK, August 12, 2010 | Commentary by John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/14/2010 4:09:18 AM PDT by GonzoII

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To: DBeers

“Your words...”

Yep. Did you have a point?


821 posted on 08/16/2010 7:25:50 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
Yep. Did you have a point?

It is obvious -my point has been made repeatedly.

You conceded as much when you lost your composure and retreated from directly engaging the argument instead focusing on me and then only implying passively what at first you vigorously espoused e.g that 'truth' I won't admit...

Check Mate -your arguments have been kicked to the curb like so much refuse --DUDE...

822 posted on 08/16/2010 7:37:17 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

“Check Mate -your arguments have been kicked to the curb like so much refuse —DUDE... “

Yes, I’m so humiliated that I can’t measure up to your fictional argument that you invented in your head and didn’t bother to tell anyone about.

I’m sure right now you are preparing a clever retort to the next thing that I never said.

Keep up the good work.

Now will you go away?


823 posted on 08/16/2010 7:42:44 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer; DBeers
Now will you go away?

Why don't you walk away? Or do you really need to have the last word?

824 posted on 08/16/2010 7:46:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I don’t want your friend to think that I didn’t take his posts seriously. I am giving them all due consideration, can’t you tell?

What are there 4 of you poor misguided souls on this thread?

All 4 of you argued arguments on this thread that were never made, at least by me.

It would have been nice to discuss the role of Christianity in the present government, and contrast that with the ideal, as articulated by our founding fathers. It was too much for you.

Next time I’ll dumb down my argument. Maybe that will help you and your friends understand that we were on the same side of this debate, and our only difference was an understanding of “why”.


825 posted on 08/16/2010 8:00:38 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Darksheare

At least they just talk and don’t make comments online.... I hope!


826 posted on 08/16/2010 8:08:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: DBeers

You deserve an award for dealing with this online approximation of a monkey throwing feces at a zoo.


827 posted on 08/16/2010 8:12:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: RFEngineer
All 4 of you argued arguments on this thread that were never made, at least by me.

I never claimed that you said anything. I simply disagreed with what you did say. And because none of us agree with you, instead of debate, you insult. Anyone who disagrees with you is called stupid. That's not debate. That's ego screaming.

It would have been nice to discuss the role of Christianity in the present government, and contrast that with the ideal, as articulated by our founding fathers.

The early fathers of our country did not believe that the federal government had any religious role. Jefferson declared days of prayer and fasting as governor of Virginia but resisted doing so as President. He did not believe that was a Presidents job. That all the Founders were God-fearing men is a given. That few in DC today even know who God is is also a given. What's there to discuss?

No one wants to talk with you about anything. You are too rude.

828 posted on 08/16/2010 8:13:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

Beck was talking about the role of the law not whether he is “cool” with everything people may do.


829 posted on 08/16/2010 8:17:38 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: RFEngineer; DJ MacWoW; Darksheare; little jeremiah
You really should quit when you are behind. After all, your post @ #499 took it all to the top level.

I can be a dick, too, and apparently I’m much better at it than you.

We should all agree with your self evaluation of yourself, and after 800+ posts you can take your "D" title and go home with it.

Whaddaya say? Or do you always need to have the last word?
My supposition is that you just can't shut up...
Prove me wrong. Go ahead.

830 posted on 08/16/2010 8:18:28 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: vox_freedom; DBeers; DJ MacWoW

They’re very slippery like greased snakes. The very epitome of deceit and duplicity. That’s what gets me. Honest debate with someone who disagrees but is respectful enough to communicate their own POV as clearly as they can and reply authentically to what is said is a completely different experience.

The examples on this thread are like trying to debate with a moving pile of quivering slime.


831 posted on 08/16/2010 8:20:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah; vox_freedom; DBeers; RFEngineer

I don’t believe debate is the point. I believe that ego trip is.


832 posted on 08/16/2010 8:24:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Zoo, monkey, throwing poo....


833 posted on 08/16/2010 8:29:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
Posters hijack the thread too. Then it becomes all about them.
834 posted on 08/16/2010 8:32:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah

I’m not angry.. I’m just pointing out that your views are just like liberals. You want to push your agenda not in favor of the consitution but in favor of your own beliefs.

Conservative.. you’re not even close.


835 posted on 08/16/2010 8:47:54 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: DJ MacWoW
I don’t believe debate is the point. I believe that ego trip is.

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836 posted on 08/16/2010 8:48:46 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So to go back to your post.

I’m glad that you that are for laws that are against adultry and divorce. Since that is deviant behavior as well.

Or are you going to try and wiggle your way out of it again?


837 posted on 08/16/2010 8:49:47 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: little jeremiah
They’re very slippery like greased snakes. The very epitome of deceit and duplicity.

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838 posted on 08/16/2010 8:50:18 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: RFEngineer
It would have been nice to discuss the role of Christianity in the present government, and contrast that with the ideal, as articulated by our founding fathers. It was too much for you.

Next time I’ll dumb down my argument. Maybe that will help you and your friends understand that we were on the same side of this debate, and our only difference was an understanding of “why”.

Your people skills need some work (and after this you should know it).

I recommend the following book: "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" by Stephen R. Covey.

One of the habits is:

Habit 5. Seek First to Understand, Then to be Understood

Suggesting the listener is unable yo comprehend your message e.g. stupid -is not being effective --it is NOT effective communication. IF your goal was to sell a position you failed. It was all you as far as failure...

I myself sought to understand and as a result stated agreement on almost all -save one issue.

I would hope this a learning experience...

839 posted on 08/16/2010 9:28:25 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Almondjoy

Ooookay.

How is it that there were laws against sodomy - aka homosexual acts - for the first say 200 years of our country? And the men who discussed, wrote and signed the Constitution all were fine with that?

And I’m not saying that “homosexuality” should be illegal, nor did they. Laws against sodomy were against the act, not against any group of people, because the very idea of a group identity of “homosexuals” had not yet fermented in the minds of any perverts yet.

There were no laws “against” same sex marriage as no mentally ill people clamored for it, and if they had, people would have laughed and then paid no attention.

This topic has nothing - zero - zilch - nada - with “my own beliefs”. Not changing the definition of marriage to mean “two men or two women getting married” has to do with immutable natural law, morality as inculcated in every religion in the world, historical precedence for thousands of years, psychology, health, the will of the people, and probably I could think of more, say tomorrow morning.

My beliefs or your beliefs have nothing to do with objective reality. People can choose to mold their beliefs in accordance with reality, or they can fight reailty.

I choose to accept reality and make it my guiding light, rather than remain in the darkness of confusion and illusory “beliefs”.


840 posted on 08/16/2010 9:58:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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