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If Timothy McVeigh had been a Christian
American Thinker ^ | 8/16/2010 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 08/17/2010 7:57:35 PM PDT by Sioux-san

In fact, Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy McVeigh, was a self-proclaimed atheist, whose mantra was "Science is my religion." That, of course, did not stop the media and the self-appointed liberal "watchdogs" from blaming the bombing of the Murrah Building on the Christian right.

Chief among the watchdogs in the Midwest, perhaps nationwide, is one Leonard Zeskind, an unrepentant Marxist-Leninist and author of the paranoid classic, Blood and Politics: The History of the White Nationalist Movement from the Margins to the Mainstream.

Zeskind had learned the arts of ritual defamation from his Marxist mentors well and deeply. For the last two decades at least, he and others of his ilk have traveled the land warning how the "the God, guts and guns crowd" was intent on turning America into "a white Christian nation." If these faux Cassandras ever had a poster boy, of course, it was Timothy McVeigh.

Let us suppose they were right. Let us suppose that McVeigh was a member of some particularly wrathful Christian sect, one with worldwide tentacles. Let us say that church members believed in polygamy, genital mutilation, the suppression of women's rights, capital punishment for homosexuals, and the violent imposition of their own law upon the land.

Let us say, too, that the less overtly hostile members of that sect chose to build a 13-story church and cultural center overshadowing the Oklahoma City National Memorial & Museum at the site where the Murrah Building once stood. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, let us say that they too pretended that their project was something other than an end-zone dance on the memories of the dead.

Given these circumstances, would any liberal anywhere in America, let alone President Obama, make self-righteous noises about this sect's right to religious freedom? Would any liberal anywhere impute bigotry to those who challenged the Church of McVeigh's towering thumb in America's eye?

No, of course not. Our progressive friends would be leading the assault against the center. Hell's bells, they are inevitably the one leading the assault when the local Presbyterian Church wants to expand its parking lot.


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1 posted on 08/17/2010 7:57:37 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Oh come on now! All you going to do is confuse liberals with facts...they can’t handle that.


2 posted on 08/17/2010 7:59:51 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: Sioux-san

The cynical Left never lets facts get in the way of their narrative.


3 posted on 08/17/2010 7:59:54 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook

Exactly. Don’t confuse llibs using reason.

Better question: Where are the leftist feminists and homosexuals out marching in protest of mosques everywhere? Any Christian church with similar teachings would be a target. “Hate speech” codes would ban them. Justice Department and IRS would be on them.


4 posted on 08/17/2010 8:06:33 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Sioux-san

Bravo!


5 posted on 08/17/2010 8:07:30 PM PDT by adamjefferson
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To: Sioux-san

There’s absolutely no reason to take anything the state controlled media says seriously.


6 posted on 08/17/2010 8:07:53 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sioux-san

Wiki

Leonard Zeskind is an American human rights activist, and president of the Institute for Research & Education of Human Rights (IREHR).[1]

He worked in industry for thirteen years. Since 1982, he was a community activist.

He is a lifetime member of the NAACP, and has served on the board of directors of the Petra Foundation, and the Kansas City Jewish Community Relations Bureau.


7 posted on 08/17/2010 8:09:24 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Sioux-san

McVeigh might have been a convert to Islam from what I have heard.


8 posted on 08/17/2010 8:09:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Perhaps if we ever find his muslim partner we could ask him.


9 posted on 08/17/2010 8:20:15 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Sioux-san; Jack Hydrazine

http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,109478,00.html

TIME: Are you religious?

MCVEIGH: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.

TIME: Do you believe in God?

MCVEIGH: I do believe in a God, yes. But that’s as far as I want to discuss. If I get too detailed on some things that are personal like that, it gives people an easier way alienate themselves from me and that’s all they are looking for now.


10 posted on 08/17/2010 8:21:23 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: rockrr

Jamie Gorelick, BP’s lawyer, knows who that is.


11 posted on 08/17/2010 8:26:46 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Sioux-san

What do you mean “IF”, in the eyes of the media he was a bible thumping southern baptist.

And that didn’t stop the media from using McVeigh to try to bash the religious faction of the republican party.


12 posted on 08/17/2010 8:28:36 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: James C. Bennett
McVeigh chose William Ernest Henley's poem "Invictus" as his final statement.

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

Oh yeah... Those are the last words of an atheist -- marching out into the abyss with an ill-placed confidence in himself ...
"I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul..."

Riiight...
I'll put my Trust in the real Captain ...

Hebrews 2:10 For it became HIM, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

13 posted on 08/17/2010 9:37:22 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Sioux-san

ping


14 posted on 08/17/2010 9:56:44 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: El Cid

LOL, but Atheists don’t believe in the existence of souls.


15 posted on 08/18/2010 12:46:33 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Anyone who parses words like “I believe in a god” isn’t talking about THE ONE TRUE GOD. I understand the rage, but have no sympathy for McVeigh’s expression of it. As I get more furious with our PINO and all his minions, I wonder what tactics will work to bring them back under lawful control.


16 posted on 08/18/2010 10:17:06 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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