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LIVE THREAD: Australian Federal Election Count as it happens
21st August 2010

Posted on 08/21/2010 12:49:31 AM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: Dundee

How much of a problem is voter fraud down there, or (a huge problem in the state) someone running on the Liberal Party who gets into office and caucuses with Labor?


121 posted on 08/21/2010 3:07:35 AM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: naturalman1975

Called seats from the Electorial Commission.

ALP: 57
Coalition: 48
Independent: 3


122 posted on 08/21/2010 3:08:07 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: onyx

Yes - he’s conservative enough.

I guess it’s just that I’m used to seeing that face on boys who are explaining to me some outlandish reason for homework not appearing, or asking for a bandaid for a knee skinned playing cricket at recess.


123 posted on 08/21/2010 3:08:34 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Brytani

I’m honestly not sure about voter fraud.

We don’t have major problems with people routinely not supporting the party that they were elected in. It does happen occasionally, but it is unusual and it’s normally only on single issues.


124 posted on 08/21/2010 3:10:12 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

LOL. Yes, I gathered from your comments, you’re a teacher.


125 posted on 08/21/2010 3:10:40 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Brytani
How much of a problem is voter fraud down there, or (a huge problem in the state) someone running on the Liberal Party who gets into office and caucuses with Labor?

With compulsory voting, voter fraud isn't really issue. Party loyalty is extremely strong. Far, FAR more so than in the US.

126 posted on 08/21/2010 3:12:10 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: Brytani

The conservative coalition actually allows backbenchers (non Ministers) to vote against the party on occasional matters of personal policy. Ministers (or Shadow Ministers in opposition) are expected to support the party or resign their ministerial position and return to the backbenchers.

It’s one way we differ from Labor - they expect absolute support in the name of solidarity.

It’s not career enhancing to do it often - but on a genuine matter of importance to you or your electorate, it’s tolerated.


127 posted on 08/21/2010 3:13:29 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Glad to hear, I was a bit worried that Labor would be taking lessons from Obama’s party here.

I read an article yesterday where the O Administration is hoping” that Labor retains power; it went on to say that the Admin flt relations would be “difficult” if there was a change of power.


128 posted on 08/21/2010 3:13:41 AM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: naturalman1975

Called seats from the Electorial Commission.

ALP: 58
Coalition: 47
Independent: 3
Green: 1


129 posted on 08/21/2010 3:14:15 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: onyx

Yes - mostly 14-17/18 year olds - three of my students should have voted for the first time today. One of those got a Saturday detention yesterday, which I postponed a week so he could easily. Interesting dichotomy at his age - still a schoolboy but old enough to vote.


130 posted on 08/21/2010 3:16:31 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Called seats from the Electorial Commission.

ALP: 59
Coalition: 49
Independent: 3
Greens: 1


131 posted on 08/21/2010 3:16:44 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: naturalman1975

Labor: 64
Liberal/Nationals: 56
Other: 3

These are predictions - not calls.


132 posted on 08/21/2010 3:17:23 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Dundee

Go the Greens did get their one seat, which might as well count as a Labor seat, giving them a 10 seat advantage....sigh


133 posted on 08/21/2010 3:18:04 AM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Brytani

I’m in need of coffee, my fingers are not awake yet!

Anyone like a cup? :-)


134 posted on 08/21/2010 3:19:54 AM PDT by Brytani (There Is No (D) in November! Go Allen!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Brytani

One seat has been called for the Greens yes.

Bear in mind we have no calls at all yet from Western Australia - polls are still open there.


135 posted on 08/21/2010 3:20:02 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Called seats from the Electorial Commission.

ALP: 60
Coalition: 49
Independent: 3
Greens: 1


136 posted on 08/21/2010 3:21:51 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: naturalman1975

You’re a GOOD teacher - postponing his detention so he could easily vote. I trust he voted against labour.


137 posted on 08/21/2010 3:22:44 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

Actually I fear he voted Green.

But in an electorate with is about as conservative as you can get.


138 posted on 08/21/2010 3:25:16 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

WA, on the basis of polls, shows a strong swing against the ALP. So I think that all figures are only notional, as yet.

I talked to lots of people, and got the impression that Abbott would probably win - there seems to be a high regard for him.


139 posted on 08/21/2010 3:26:32 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: naturalman1975

Labor: 66
Liberal/Nationals: 57
Other: 3

These are predictions - not calls.


140 posted on 08/21/2010 3:26:50 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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