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The 3,000-Mile Oil Change Is Pretty Much History
New York Times ^ | Sept 10, 2010 | Alina Tugend

Posted on 09/12/2010 9:59:05 AM PDT by posterchild

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To: goat granny
"As a kid if you stood looking in the icebox for too long, my dad would say*****Whats playing, the lone ranger or the green hornet***** For those too young to know, those were 2 top radio programs..

What's an "icebox"? ;)
101 posted on 09/12/2010 1:11:26 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo)
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To: Hot Tabasco

When mine Kaks I will just buy another old one.


102 posted on 09/12/2010 1:24:27 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: fso301

Thick crusty carbon buildup will make lifters stick. I think they make an oil additive that will eat away at it. low oil pressure will too. when an engine gets loose, you lose oil pressure. This can be remedied by upgrading to a high volume oil pump.


103 posted on 09/12/2010 1:35:48 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: posterchild

When I was younger, a friend of mine bought an old first generation Subaru. THe car had just over 100,000 miles and we think it had the original oil filter. It required major surgery to remove.


104 posted on 09/12/2010 1:57:23 PM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: kickonly88
motorcycles (auto oils in motorcycles can cause catastrophic engine, clutch, and or transmission damage).

I beg to differ. I ran Pennzoil 20w50 in cooler weather and straight Pennzoil 60w in warmer weather in my “78 Shovelhead. Both were racing oils.

Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I was writing about modern high mpg oils, not specialty oils, like racing oils, which have different formulations and properties. In addition to that, your bike has a dry clutch, and separate crankcase and transmission oils. Most motorcycles have a wet clutch and share the oil between the crankcase and transmission. I've seen at least 5 motorcycles that have needed major repairs due to using the wrong oil.

Mark

105 posted on 09/12/2010 1:58:32 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

710 alert


106 posted on 09/12/2010 2:10:36 PM PDT by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: HerrBlucher
“CTF Oil.” I think that means oil change time....."

You have neglected your car and it is angry. "CTF Oil" means Check The Fu*kin' Oil!!

107 posted on 09/12/2010 2:19:17 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: fso301
At around 3,500 miles, I generally pulled into a drive-through QuickyLube type place for an oil and filter change. I thought this was fine.

Recently, the car developed an oil leak from a valve cover. When I removed the cover, I was shocked to see a dark brown coating of varnish covering the rockers, springs, etc.

I did the same thing starting with a brand new 1990 Toyota Corolla, which I traded in on a brand new 2000 Toyota Corolla (at about 200,000 miles). I had no engine problems on the 1990, but later on the 2000, I did have a serious compression problem on one cylinder late in 2009 at about 185,000 miles, though I never determined if it was a problem with the rings, cylinder, head, valves, or head gasket. I always used Jiffy Lube every 3000 miles, and never had problems until recently, but I don't know if that was what caused the problem. But I've been thinking about starting to go to Walmart for my oil changes, where you buy your own oil and filter, and they change it for you for a nominal fee. They'll match any advertised price on the oil and filter too.

Mark

108 posted on 09/12/2010 2:20:18 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkeyD

The rule used to be 3 months or 3000 miles since short distance driving is very hard on an engine. The great majority of wear is done in the 1st few miles as the engine warms.


109 posted on 09/12/2010 2:21:08 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: posterchild

If you knew what you were doing you’d judge by acidity.


110 posted on 09/12/2010 2:22:29 PM PDT by bvw
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To: PowderMonkey

I have had experience with failing to replace oil drained for a change. The car never made it around the block before grinding to a halt.


111 posted on 09/12/2010 2:24:27 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: gunnyg

I’ve done that with a car designed with high oil use. The VW Dasher. The sludge at the bottom never got disturbed. An oil change breaks up the sludge and introduces the bad stuff into the oil circulation.


112 posted on 09/12/2010 2:25:37 PM PDT by bvw
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To: MinorityRepublican

I left the Corps in ‘72—a retirement physical was required.

Used to be ya hadda take another physical every 4 years else they cut off yer monthly check (when we still had checks).

Then they decided all the citizen navy doctors were needed at sea—things were getting tough—ironically, they had to be us citizens overseas, so ashore they started using foreign-born doctors, civilians, females, even corp(s)men... money was tight...

For me it meant i no longer hadda waste my time w/@$$wholes...

end-of-story...


113 posted on 09/12/2010 3:15:14 PM PDT by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, Our 'Novembers' Are Gone,,,So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: mylife

I used to use Castrol and Penzoil, until at about 10k miles it broke down, I blew the main radiator hose, one block uphill from the Ford dealer, coasted down hill one block and cracked the block in the process.

Parafin based oil had broken down in the cold weather and seized the crankshaft.

Since then I’ve only used Havoline 10/20 or in the desert perhaps 20/50 in the summertime and have about 350k on a rebuilt short block 302 V8, changing oil generally every 3k -4500miles.

Just recently the oil pressure has started to drop, but that has been 2 years after the harmonic balancer main bolt cracked and the new one indicates the cam shaft is just a tad warped. Still runs fine, but her get up and go feels like it has got up and went.


114 posted on 09/12/2010 3:23:25 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Well paraffin based oil does suck in extreme cold.

Started up a 1970 mustang mach I at 2:30 AM on a jan day in NE Ohio and snapped an oil pump shaft.

Yeah, that sucked LoL


115 posted on 09/12/2010 3:37:30 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: Cvengr

20/50 in the desert is generally a good idea.

At least with older cars


116 posted on 09/12/2010 3:39:27 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: PowderMonkey
LOL Thats what kept things cold, you put ice in the ice container and food in the other 1/2. Then they made refrigerators.....We turned in our old ice box for a brand new refrigerator....and a little light went on when you opened the refrigerator so you could see all the food. As a little kid, that was a miracle...You are young (anything below the age of 55) or just fooling with me.....:O)

Only the rich had Refrigerators when I was born.....1939

us poooor folks had ice boxes....the ice man would drive down your street twice a week with a horse drawn wagon full of ice and you put a sign in your window that said 25 or 50. That told the ice man how big an ice cube you wanted. 25 pound or 50 pound block...And that was in the big city of Detroit, 4th largest city in the country at that time. and quite beautiful, not like today...

117 posted on 09/12/2010 4:01:17 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: mad_as_he$$
Valo Durabland or full syn is the best stuff around. Both will soften old seals just enough.

What I started using is Valvoline MaxLife Synthetic Blend. My understanding is that it is essentially Valvoline DuraBlend plus a seal conditioner additive package.

118 posted on 09/12/2010 5:53:25 PM PDT by fso301
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To: mamelukesabre
Thick crusty carbon buildup will make lifters stick. I think they make an oil additive that will eat away at it.

What I was cautioned about is not to add a cleaner to the oil as a sudden influx of crud could clog an oil port. Because my cylinder compression readings were solid, I decided to go ahead and clean the engine but to do it slowly by using a high quality oil and changing it every 1,000 miles.

Maybe 5K miles from now, I'll take off the valve cover and see how everything looks. If clean, I'll switch to 3K mile oil change intervals.

low oil pressure will too. when an engine gets loose, you lose oil pressure. This can be remedied by upgrading to a high volume oil pump.

Interesting, I'll see if there's some way to measure the oil pressure on my car.

119 posted on 09/12/2010 6:02:59 PM PDT by fso301
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To: TXnMA

One of my friends has an uncle in Bandera who takes the dipstick out lets a drop or two fall on his wrist and licks it. That guy knows cars like the back of his hand. Probably related to the same reason that smell works as an indicator. Won’t find me doing it, but the man is a genius with cars. Incidentally I’ve never seen him lose a game of poker which might be possible related.


120 posted on 09/12/2010 7:19:08 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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