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Lance Armstrong Reportedly Tied to Performance-Enhancers in Recording
Fanhouse ^ | 9/16/10 | Hal Spivack

Posted on 09/16/2010 8:13:41 AM PDT by truthandlife

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To: truthandlife

Old: We beat the Russians to the moon because our German rocket scientists were better than their German rocket scientists.

New: My favorite athlete won because he had better drugs than your favorite athlete.

Does anybody really respect athletics any more?

Really?


21 posted on 09/16/2010 8:42:39 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: truthandlife
Greg LeMond needs some counseling to get over all this....he just won't let this go and the world will remember him a whiner/nut case and not a champion cyclist.....
22 posted on 09/16/2010 8:45:41 AM PDT by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: carton253

hearsay but certainly fits doesn’t it?


23 posted on 09/16/2010 8:46:03 AM PDT by cherry
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To: truthandlife

This is old news - old as in Frankie Andrieu’s wife told this story a long time ago. It is known. It was in 2006 and Lance was discussing his post cancer treatment with EPO and steroids with the doctors who proscribed the treatment. All the cycling entities and WADA have known about this for a long time. It means nothing.


24 posted on 09/16/2010 8:52:05 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: carton253
"Hearsay"

It would not be allowed to be entered as direct evidence at trial because of the hearsay rule, BUT it could be used to impeach the declarant should the declarant be called to testify and then say something different than what is on that tape.

Also, the hearsay rule does not apply in a grand jury. It's completely admissible there, and may be weighed as evidence by the jurors.

25 posted on 09/16/2010 8:53:01 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: G Larry
"Dr./Patient privilege! "

Is what Armstrong waived when he had a conversation with his doctor in front of his friends.

Let that be a lesson, confidentially is waived when you say something to a doctor/lawyer/priest in the presence of other non-privileged parties (generally).

26 posted on 09/16/2010 8:55:08 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: truthandlife

uh hearsay
setup
they’re gonna have to do better than that


27 posted on 09/16/2010 8:55:49 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: truthandlife

Somehow I just don’t care.


28 posted on 09/16/2010 8:56:50 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Robbin
"Sounds like a major HIPPA violation."

No, the "friend" is under no HIPAA limitation. HIPAA applies to medical practioners, hospitals, insurance companies, and the government - not to friends.

If you have a conversation with your doctor about your medical problems, and your friends are present, you're waiving doctor/patient confidentiality - which means the doctor could theoretically be forced to testify about what was discussed when those friends were present. BUT, the doctor is still bound by HIPAA - IOW he couldn't talk about it unless he was subpoenaed. The friends are bound by nothing. The 1A gives them license to repeat virtually any conversation they heard.

29 posted on 09/16/2010 8:59:37 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: truthandlife

Under the Blago Rule he can just say he was talking crap...


30 posted on 09/16/2010 9:02:53 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I remember some controversey in the late 90’s about some drugs he used during his legitimate cancer tx that would be considered performance enhancing today if used in that context. I think this is old info that is being newly spun out of context.


31 posted on 09/16/2010 9:03:39 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: Da Coyote

Yes. I’ve been watching video from the freestyle wrestling world championships, I’m not even sure what drug you could accuse them of using. Hard to say steroids since none look roided up at all.


32 posted on 09/16/2010 9:06:32 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: mdmathis6
"I remember some controversey in the late 90’s about some drugs he used during his legitimate cancer tx that would be considered performance enhancing today if used in that context."

EPO is sometimes prescribed to people who undergoing chemotherapy. EPO is also a drug of choice for endurance athletes because it increases red blood cell count. It was probably that one.

33 posted on 09/16/2010 9:07:17 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: mdmathis6

The bigger controversy seems to be the lengths LeMond will go to to bring down Armstrong.

Talk about obsessive.


34 posted on 09/16/2010 9:07:57 AM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: LadyBuck

Seems to be true of all great men...Paul had his ‘thorn in the flesh’....Prometheus, his liver ate daily by a vulture....Samson had his Delilah...even the Roman generals marching in triumph into the city had a man whispering into his ear”glory is fleeting...all glory is fleeting”.

Armstrong seems to have a LeMond stuck like a snake onto his heel!


35 posted on 09/16/2010 9:13:55 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: truthandlife

I’m sick of all this nonsense. Jealousy, stupidity, and third hand testimony from unreliable sources. Lance Armstrong was a great competitor, an admirable man. Greg LeMond is a jerk.


36 posted on 09/16/2010 9:24:32 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Kimmers
"Greg LeMond needs some counseling to get over all this....he just won't let this go and the world will remember him a whiner/nut case and not a champion cyclist..... "

Too bad. LeMond was a great cyclist too and it makes me wonder what his grudge against Armstrong is...

37 posted on 09/16/2010 9:29:19 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yes, although if she told the truth to LeMond about the conversation, she LIED to LeMond about telling the truth in a deposition.

So we KNOW she lied to LeMond, the question is did she ALSO lie to the courts where she could be prosecuted.


38 posted on 09/16/2010 9:30:25 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: truthandlife

Mention Greg LeMond and you know which end of the horse it’s coming from.


39 posted on 09/16/2010 9:33:34 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: truthandlife

Armstrong cannot compete in France because the last time he was there, he was caught with 3 illegal substances: shampoo, deodorant, and toothpaste.


40 posted on 09/16/2010 9:34:35 AM PDT by RAV_USA (RAV_USA)
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