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Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work?
Time ^ | September 25, 2010 | MAIA SZALAVITZ

Posted on 09/27/2010 1:21:01 PM PDT by La Lydia

...Portugal, which in 2001 became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine. At the recommendation of a national commission charged with addressing Portugal's drug problem, jail time was replaced with the offer of therapy. The argument was that the fear of prison drives addicts underground and that incarceration is more expensive than treatment — so why not give drug addicts health services instead? .....At the time, critics in the poor, largely Catholic nation said decriminalizing drug possession would open the country to "drug tourists" and exacerbate Portugal's drug problem; the country had some of the highest levels of hard-drug use in Europe. But the recently released results of a report commissioned by the Cato Institute suggest otherwise.

The paper...found that in the five years after personal possession was decriminalized, illegal drug use among teens in Portugal declined and rates of new HIV infections caused by sharing of dirty needles dropped, while the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled.

...Following decriminalization, Portugal had the lowest rate of lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 in the E.U.: 10%. The most comparable figure in America is in people over 12: 39.8%. Proportionally, more Americans have used cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana. The Cato paper reports that between 2001 and 2006 in Portugal, rates of lifetime use of any illegal drug among seventh through ninth graders fell from 14.1% to 10.6%; drug use in older teens also declined. Lifetime heroin use among 16-to-18-year-olds fell ...

...the data shows that decriminalization does not result in increased drug use. Since that is what concerns the public and policymakers most about decriminalization, he says, "that is the central concession that will transform the debate."

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


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KEYWORDS: addicts; druglaws; trafficking
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To: La Lydia
Cato does good work, have you found this report on their website as much as we distrust Time?

...didn't mean to scream at you with that banner.

I got one on my back windshield.

You can get one at Newsbusters.org

61 posted on 09/27/2010 2:26:08 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: La Lydia

Well, your post brought out the Liberaltarians that had been in hiding.


62 posted on 09/27/2010 2:26:37 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: La Lydia

Well, your post brought out the Liberaltarians that had been in hiding.


63 posted on 09/27/2010 2:26:42 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Utah Binger

I think Singapore’s position on illegal drug use, there it is a capitol crime, is far superior to Portugal’s legalization.


64 posted on 09/27/2010 2:29:08 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Tolsti2
“...and almost certainly dragged them down.”

Citation?

65 posted on 09/27/2010 2:29:29 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: runninglips
I would not mind that drugs were legalized if I did not have to pay for the results of people's stupid mistakes. I pay enough as it is.

However, for the record, UK and other European countries have tried to ‘legalize’ drugs and remove the punitive aspect of use. It has not had the same miraculous impact that is being reported in Portugal by this article. Therefore, I am going to take this information with a very large grain of salt.

Progressives (communists/socialists) the worked over have one very similar method used to achieve their goals. They lie. Repeatedly. And then manufacture data to prove their lie is the truth. If that fails, then they attack their opponents personally. If you always remember that whatever a progressive says is a lie, you will have a clearer direction to proceed. Very simple bet very effective.

66 posted on 09/27/2010 2:30:42 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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later read


67 posted on 09/27/2010 2:33:21 PM PDT by rustyncrusty (Where liberty dwells, there is my country. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Red Badger
If all I had to drink was this, I'd do drugs, too...............

ROFLMAO! Boy does that bring back memories.....like almost 50 years ago, when young, un-sophiscated (but trying to appear suave and debonair) guys like me took a date to dinner and that (wine) is about all we ever ordered.

Unbeknownst to us, Mateus was but a step above Richards Wild Irish Rose or Thunderbird or what my Mom used to buy for us kids to celebrate the Holidays (though hardly Jewish) and that was Manischewitz.

68 posted on 09/27/2010 2:35:44 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: microgood

“It is basically the same as the moral need to create HOV lanes, because it is immoral to drive in a car by yourself. “

And I say it is immoral to steal my money, to build HOV lanes for others to use, but not pay for.


69 posted on 09/27/2010 2:39:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: SatinDoll; La Lydia
I think Singapore’s position on illegal drug use, there it is a capitol crime, is far superior to Portugal’s legalization.

In that case your relatives would be dead or in prison. I find that curious.

70 posted on 09/27/2010 2:47:26 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, where the world comes to see America)
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To: La Lydia

Timing is everything. Does anyone really entertain the thought that now is the time, with total chaos happening in Mexico, to create an unquenchable demand for hard drugs, even it only for the short term if Portugal’s experience is legitimate?


71 posted on 09/27/2010 2:48:44 PM PDT by ritpg
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To: ritpg

I think one of the points of the report is that demand went down, not up, if you take time out of your busy day to actually read the article.


72 posted on 09/27/2010 2:50:42 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: TexasCajun

There, fixed it for you. No charge.

73 posted on 09/27/2010 3:06:56 PM PDT by Four Twenty (Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end. --C.S. Lewis)
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To: nickcarraway
By the way, who is paying for this treatment? I wouldn't ask taxpayers to pay for drug addiction treatment any more than I would ask them to pay for addiction treatments for tobacco, alcohol, gambling, sex, food, or any other legal substance/activity that people become addicted to. But let me turn this question around: prohibition isn't free. You have to pay cops to investigate and arrest violators. You need judges, prosecutors, public defender, bailiffs, and clerks to give these folks trials. Then you need to build and staff prisons. I trust that you're a hardworking guy, an upstanding citizen, who doesn't like to see his hard-earned tax dollars wasted. Do you really think that the government is making good use of your time by arresting people who just want to get baked while they sit around, watch The Matrix, and eat Mallomars? Do you really want your money being spend on incarcerating these people, giving them three meals a day while they lift weights?
74 posted on 09/27/2010 3:07:05 PM PDT by Four Twenty (Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end. --C.S. Lewis)
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To: 84rules
[T]he problem of alcoholism is still persistent, families are severely affected by it and people are still killed by drunk drivers. Lifting the anti-drug laws will have the same effect. Drug addiction will still occur, families will still be severely affected by it and people will still be killed for it. Hmm, sounds like maybe we should criminalize alcohol, don't you think? Anyway, I would absolutely love to take every alcoholic and turn him into a pothead. I would take that trade in a second, and so would you. Why? Because no one smokes weed and rages out. No one smokes weed and beats his wife. No one smokes weed and beats his children. No one smokes weed and loses control of her inhibitions and gets raped. And I would rather be driven around by a 180 pound man who just smoked an entire joint than the same man who just drank three beers over the course of an hour.
75 posted on 09/27/2010 3:07:18 PM PDT by Four Twenty (Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end. --C.S. Lewis)
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To: I still care
Under our current laws the adult would be arrested for being intoxicated. But if the substance is legal?

I don't think I understand your question. Beer is legal. It's illegal to be intoxicated by beer in public.

76 posted on 09/27/2010 3:07:30 PM PDT by Four Twenty (Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end. --C.S. Lewis)
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To: Utah Binger

Serious drug abuse causes so much damage to the human body that ever greater amounts of pain killing drugs have to be used.

Those two relatives of mine are existing in a living hell. Their bodies are literally falling apart and/or organs are shutting down. Their only hope is that the government will keep providing medical remedies, remedies you and I pay for out of tax revenue.

If either could be productive citizens again perhaps they could go back to work and help pay for others like themselves. But their only desire is to stay stoned.


77 posted on 09/27/2010 3:07:37 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll
If someone doesn’t want to work, then I don’t give a damn if they and their children starve. But our society and government does care. And we pay taxes to support them.

The Welfare State and the criminalization of drugs are two symptoms of the same destructive disease: the idea that the Nanny State is here to take care of you. You think you're helping people by making drugs illegal, but you're just treating them like children. And that fosters the idea that the government is here to take care of you when something bad happens to you. I've got a better idea: let adults make their own decisions. And when they screw up, their mistakes are on them.

78 posted on 09/27/2010 3:08:20 PM PDT by Four Twenty (Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end. --C.S. Lewis)
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To: runninglips

Wanna see how well prohibition works, watch Boardwalk Empire. An incredible HBO special. Drug prohibition works as well as gun prohibition in New York. No difference. Every person owns their body and is free to do with it as they please. Drugs are evil or can be, but is pot worse than alcohol. I don’t think so.

What you are seeing now is nullification of the marijuana laws and next will be other drug laws.


79 posted on 09/27/2010 3:08:52 PM PDT by appeal2 (Don't steal, the government hates competition.)
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To: La Lydia

“...the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled.”

Sounds like demand went up.


80 posted on 09/27/2010 3:21:01 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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