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To: edge919

“Upon the facts agreed in this case, the American citizenship which Wong Kim Ark acquired by birth within the United States has not been lost or taken away by anything happening since his birth. No doubt he might himself, after coming of age, renounce this citizenship ...”


This clearly acknowledges that a minor COULD lose his citizenship from an act of the parents, or on his own after coming of age.

However, would the same apply, in you opinion, to a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN?

Natural Born is intrinsic to birth... and it would seem reasonable that not even a parent could renounce such a state for another — even his own child.

STE=Q


1,501 posted on 10/21/2010 2:59:43 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q
However, would the same apply, in you opinion, to a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN?

I don't see a distinction nor a reason for a distinction. The court doesn't make a distinction ... and we know Ark was NOT a natural born citizen nor is Obama, so it's a moot point.

1,518 posted on 10/21/2010 3:39:27 PM PDT by edge919
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To: STE=Q; edge919

“This clearly acknowledges that a minor COULD lose his citizenship from an act of the parents, or on his own after coming of age.”

Obama could undoubtedly lose his citizenship by renouncing it after coming of age. He could not lose it prior to that time.

“Miss Elg was born in Brooklyn, New York, on October 2, 1907. Her parents, who were natives of Sweden, emigrated to the United States sometime prior to 1906, and her father was naturalized here in that year. In 1911, her mother took her to Sweden, where she continued to reside until September 7, 1929. Her father went to Sweden in 1922, and has not since returned to the United States. In November, 1934, he made a statement before an American consul in Sweden that he had voluntarily expatriated himself for the reason that he did not desire to retain the status of an American citizen and wished to preserve his allegiance to Sweden.

In 1928, shortly before Miss Elg became twenty-one years of age, she inquired an American consul in Sweden about returning to the United States and was informed that, if she returned after attaining majority, she should seek an American passport. In 1929, within eight months after attaining majority, she obtained an American passport which was issued on the instructions of the Secretary of State. She then returned to the United States, was admitted as a citizen and has resided in this country ever since.”

“6. The Act of March 2, 1907, in providing “That any American citizen shall be deemed to have expatriated himself when he has been naturalized in any foreign state in conformity with its laws, . . . “ was aimed at voluntary expatriation, and was not intended to destroy the right of a native citizen, removed from this country during minority, to elect to retain the citizenship acquired by birth and to return here for that purpose, even though he may be deemed to have been naturalized under the foreign law by derivation from the citizenship of his parents before he came of age. P. 307 U. S. 342. “

http://supreme.justia.com/us/307/325/case.html


1,525 posted on 10/21/2010 3:53:37 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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