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Paladino: 'Don't talk to me about polls'
NEWS ALBANY BUREAU ^ | Updated: October 29, 2010, 8:34 PM | Tom Precious

Posted on 10/30/2010 10:06:48 AM PDT by Mr. K

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To: metmom
virtually everyone I've talked to likes Paladino and plans on voting for him

So you happened to talk to a statistically valid cross-section of hundreds of likely voters distributed across the entire state? Remarkable.

41 posted on 10/30/2010 11:59:49 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Longbow1969
How does that do us any good?

Us?

Never been in NY?

42 posted on 10/30/2010 12:00:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Strategerist

Are you a NYer? What part of NY?


43 posted on 10/30/2010 12:01:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You believe polls?! The polls had Lazio winning. That worked out so WELL for Lazio!

Primary polling is notoriously unreliable, general election polling is not.

If the polling were even remotely close I'd agree they could be wrong, but Paladino is losing by like 20+ points in virtually every poll. He isn't even competitive.

44 posted on 10/30/2010 12:03:04 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Polling lies. Always. They've been very far off the mark for some time.

You make excuses for buying what they're selling. I'll talk to NYers.

45 posted on 10/30/2010 12:04:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Fresh Wind
Mike Castle, Lisa Murkowski, and Charlie Crist would be proud of you.

Slacker.... You didn't even call me a troll, or tell me to go back to DU.

46 posted on 10/30/2010 12:05:00 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: DJ MacWoW

lol... whatever.


47 posted on 10/30/2010 12:05:34 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: DJ MacWoW
Polling lies. Always. They've been very far off the mark for some time. You make excuses for buying what they're selling. I'll talk to NYers.h

You sound paranoid and conspiratorial - and your burying your head in the sand if you think Paladino has even the slightest chance of winning. That race is a complete write off. The most we can hope is that Paladino doesn't hurt us too badly down ballot.

48 posted on 10/30/2010 12:15:06 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Mr. K

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49 posted on 10/30/2010 12:15:20 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: r9etb
Yeah well you "LOL". The Dems have a LOT riding on the midterms. If you think Progressives (socialists) are going to let go easily, think again. And you know better or you wouldn't be on FR.

The electorate is fired up and the Dems are desperate to hang on to power. This is a power struggle and is NOT the usual scenario for elections.

50 posted on 10/30/2010 12:18:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Longbow1969
See post 50.

Polls are used to influence the electorate.

I remember Hillary winning and Freepers reporting seeing poll workers dumping bags of ballots in the Bronx. That's not paranoia.

51 posted on 10/30/2010 12:20:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Polls are used to influence the electorate.

Yes, the media uses polls to influence the electorate, but many polls are sound.

ALL polls, even polls done by Rasmussen, point to the same thing right now. Paladino will simply be crushed on Tuesday and lose so badly he may significantly damage conservatives down ballot.

He turned out to be a terrible, awful candidate. Period.

52 posted on 10/30/2010 12:30:07 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
You can keep pounding that loser drum in Virginia.

It isn't Tuesday yet. I don't count the votes before they're cast.

Again, this isn't a normal election.

53 posted on 10/30/2010 12:33:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Your emotional approach is kinda cute, I admit. But it blinds you to certain political realities that even a fired-up (Republican) electorate will have trouble overcoming -- and Paladino's self-destructive campaign is one of them. The polls aren't wrong by 20 points, no matter how much you want that to be the case.

It'd be great if Paladino won, but that's probably not going to happen. So in the aftermath of the election, you've got a choice. You could sit back and moan about the stupid electorat in New York State; or you and like-minded others in New York might start thinking about getting serious and organized, in order to channel all of that electoral energy into something useful and effective.

54 posted on 10/30/2010 12:33:44 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
You can't even address what I actually stated. None of it was emotional. All of it was fact.

This is why people believe that you are a troll.

55 posted on 10/30/2010 12:44:39 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You can't even address what I actually stated. None of it was emotional. All of it was fact.

It's not "facts," it's you making assertions ... and your assertions speak mostly to your emotional investment in the results of this election.

56 posted on 10/30/2010 12:55:15 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
My post 50 is fact.

The Dems have a LOT riding on the midterms. If you think Progressives (socialists) are going to let go easily, think again.

The electorate is fired up and the Dems are desperate to hang on to power. This is a power struggle and is NOT the usual scenario for elections.

57 posted on 10/30/2010 12:57:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: r9etb
Your emotional approach is kinda cute, I admit. But it blinds you to certain political realities that even a fired-up (Republican) electorate will have trouble overcoming -- and Paladino's self-destructive campaign is one of them. The polls aren't wrong by 20 points, no matter how much you want that to be the case. It'd be great if Paladino won, but that's probably not going to happen. So in the aftermath of the election, you've got a choice. You could sit back and moan about the stupid electorat in New York State; or you and like-minded others in New York might start thinking about getting serious and organized, in order to channel all of that electoral energy into something useful and effective.

Extremely well said. I really don't know what alternate universe some of these people are living in, but we need them to break free of lala land and return to reality. The job going forward is going to be tough, and we're going to need everyone on the same page. This is going to mean learning from, and avoiding going forward, the mistakes made this election cycle which included nominating some very poor candidates like Paladino. This should be an excellent cycle for us and to not even be competitive in a state like New York was an incredible waste.

Rejecting the polls is just silly. And people apparently have short memories too because LOTS of folks here buried their heads in the sand and rejected the polls in 2006 and 2008, and well we all see what happened and how accurate the polls did turn out to be.

58 posted on 10/30/2010 12:58:18 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
What in Post 50 suggests an alternate reality to you?

This part? The Dems have a LOT riding on the midterms. If you think Progressives (socialists) are going to let go easily, think again.

Or this: The electorate is fired up and the Dems are desperate to hang on to power. This is a power struggle and is NOT the usual scenario for elections.

59 posted on 10/30/2010 1:07:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Longbow1969

I have still have a goldwater button, so all I can say is when I helped campaign as a teenager, people told me he was a loose cannon. Everyone likes the smooth politician. Yet people hate to hear the truth. You may say what you want about paladino, but lazio wasn’t the answer and certainly not cuomo. In times like this, honesty is the best policy, not political hogwash.


60 posted on 10/30/2010 1:14:09 PM PDT by DWC (historian)
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