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Jerry Brown , governor redux, and California exits left
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/3/10 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 11/03/2010 8:36:58 AM PDT by SmithL

California voters have spoken -- and for the most part, they decided to stop the wave of anti-Democratic voting that swept the nation at the Sierras.

Now California will have a Democratic governor, Democratic Legislature and with the passage of Prop. 25, Democratic budgeting process. For years now, the Dems have been blaming the Republican minority for the state's budget woes. That's over for the next two years. Whatever happens next with California -- it will be on Jerry Brown and his party. I sure hope Brown will prove to be the maverick he hinted he would be.

Talk to your average California Republican voter and you heard little enthusiasm for Meg Whitman. Conservatives voted for Whitman because she wasn't Jerry Brown. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; ca2010; goldenstate; jerrybrown; leftcoast; moonbeam
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To: sappy

a lot of us did not vote for either one if them. I also did not vote for Brad Sherman. they have redistricted over a nd over again. so conservatives have NO say in elections.


61 posted on 11/03/2010 9:18:20 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: rbosque

I weep for ya... I also have relatives just east of Sacramento. Beautiful Ca. ruined by liberalism and leftists.


62 posted on 11/03/2010 9:19:12 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: businessprofessor

Solar panels will be built in China anyway, they can do it cheaper and they control the market of rare Earth metals necessary to accomplish this.


63 posted on 11/03/2010 9:19:53 AM PDT by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: paulycy

I understand the angst of family ties. Most of my family live in Michigan. I have always felt sorry for them but also realized that Michigan had made their own bed. I was very happy to see last night they may have wakened from the nightmare.


64 posted on 11/03/2010 9:26:24 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Doctor 2Brains; Partisan Hack

“I have been reading since THE SEVENTIES!!!! about this state or that state being on the brink of bankruptcy...”

You have a point. The difference [”it’s different this time!”] with CA is that until maybe 5-8 years ago, CA was literally a nation in and of itself, and a very well-endowed one, with industry of every description, agriculture, high-tech for days, even reasonable oil production, and of course non-out-of-control real estate frenzy. CA in effect had giant, giant sources of revenue that it could suck up to pay for whatever petri-dish sized experiments it came up with in between bong hits.

Now, it’s not goofy panic any more. It’s incontrovertible math. We have entrenched gov’t employees of every description earning 2-3x what they’d earn in the private sector (if anyone was foolish enough to hire their useless asses in the first place) writing feel-good regulation after regulation, in endless, faceless bureaucracies accountable to nobody, creating higher and higher hurdles to business and biz expansion; and we have waves and waves of illegals entitled to welfare largesse of every description. If you believe (as I do) that there has to be productive businesses to create jobs for a functioning economy, CA has effectively declared war on same, on multiple fronts. Prop 13, our prop tax limitation, is clearly on the table. AB32, the most draconian global-warming emissions control regime imaginable may by itself make truck delivery and certainly *any* hard-goods industry literally impossible; this prop 25 which gives legislature unlimited largesse to raise taxes ad lib, upon 50% legislative approval...the collective impact of these things will take what is now the 48th least-friendly business climate in the US and blast it all the way off the gameboard.

In short: It’s not random panic any more. It’s hard math.

In short, it’s hard to imagine that the holes that have been blasted into the bucket are not massively larger than the ever-diminishing flow of water pouring into the bucket. The economy in general is in a secular contraction, and business is on notice that it is a target of opportunity. We have quite literally reached that Ben Franklin point where the voters have decided that they can vote to tax themselves without limit to pay a gaggle of economic Dr.
Mengele’s to perform anaesthetic-free experiments upon them.


65 posted on 11/03/2010 9:30:47 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
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To: CMAC51

” they may have wakened from the nightmare. “

Perhaps a more apt metaphor might be ‘emerged from the storm cellar’...

When ya waken from a nightmare, the world is much the same as it was before ya went to sleep....

You emerge from a storm cellar to incomprehensible damage that is going to take time, effort, and resources to set right....


66 posted on 11/03/2010 9:34:03 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I agree and the argument is correctly made here that “the rest of the country” should not bail out these Communist hellholes.

My point again, is that we are electively, already doing it. No, not with taxes taken literally at the point of a gun, but with funds funnelled from the rest of the country for tourism (NY and CA), technology(CA), and entertainment (CA and to a lesser extent NY).

I live in St. Louis. The state of Missouri pretty much exists on its own. We don’t have California’s massive entertainment, agricultural and computer industries, nor do we have the relentless national and international draw of a New York City. These MASSIVE external inflows of cash have allowed, in my opinion, for an incredible amount of fiscal misbehavior from the idiot socialists “running” those states.

Like you, I’m amazed that the once magnificent Golden State has been able to hold on so long. Steely Dan from the late 70’s:

“California....tumbles into the sea...”


67 posted on 11/03/2010 9:35:32 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: 13Sisters76

Meg Whitman was and is a dud.....politically, at least. I voted for her bcause she was not Brown, but for no other reason. Would she have been a good governor? I have no idea. I can tell you, however, she is a terrible politician. She has no charisma. She projected nothing.

Brown had a TV spot the last few days. It was just him. Full face on camera. He was energized, engaged, friendly, in fact, likeable. I knew it was over when I saw that.

Sometimes its not about the ideas. Its about connection. Meg could not connect to the voters, not even to the conservatives. Just a bad choice of candidates.


68 posted on 11/03/2010 9:36:17 AM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: rbosque

California got exactly what it wanted. Deep down, I knew that Whitman and Fiorina didn’t have a chance.

Moonbeam is what they wanted, because that is the majority in California, a bunch of New Age, crystal worshipping, dingbat, treehugging, God hating liberals.


69 posted on 11/03/2010 9:37:21 AM PDT by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: freekitty

The California taxpayers are the ones getting hosed.


70 posted on 11/03/2010 9:39:45 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: television is just wrong

i live in san jose. i did not vote for them either. i pulled pretty much straight GOP down the line except Able Moldanado for Lt. Gov. I wrote in Mickey Mouse rather than that RINO or the leftist, Newsome.


71 posted on 11/03/2010 9:40:02 AM PDT by sappy (criminalibs)
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To: Grampa Dave
Off course any business in Califonia except the phoney green bs will get hammered by increases in Prop 13.

Prop 13 is the last bit of fiscal sanity left there. Lots of hardworking people were able to stay because their houses were grandfathered in to low taxes. If they raise those, everybody but the welfare class will leave.

72 posted on 11/03/2010 9:41:41 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: sappy

unfortunately, we are squashed over all the illegal aliens and governor moonbeam supporters. moonbeam was a laughing stock when he was governor the last time, and he is an idiot, now he is a senile idiot. look for more crap coming from his mouth

and the same goes for boxer


73 posted on 11/03/2010 9:42:20 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Doctor 2Brains
Can anybody tell me why not?

"Socialism only works until you run out of other people's money." (Margaret Thatcher)

California hasn't reached that point quite yet.

74 posted on 11/03/2010 9:43:36 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: freekitty

Will Jerry Brown actually govern or will it be his wife?


75 posted on 11/03/2010 9:45:01 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Very well said. I’m waiting to see how it all unfolds.


76 posted on 11/03/2010 9:49:54 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: ModelBreaker
What pisses me off is that I left CA and moved to CO when Grey Davis came to power, partly because I saw what was coming in CA. And now the same cesspool has spread to my native state, CO. Maybe I should just stay put so I don’t ruin any more states. :)

Maybe Wyoming- did you see their turnout: 25% dem; 75% for the R. That's how Colorado used to be back in the early 90's when I moved here. It sucks what's happened to our beautiful, red state. Denver rules now. Just wait till the Hick gets in- there goes our water...over the divide to Denver. And our natural gas industry, too.

77 posted on 11/03/2010 9:50:57 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Grampa Dave
See this thread:

TO MY IGNORANT FRIENDS HERE IN CALIFORNIA

78 posted on 11/03/2010 9:53:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Thanks. I’m not waiting. I’ll be out of CA by summer 2011.


79 posted on 11/03/2010 9:57:39 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
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To: SmithL
As the nation got redder, California turned bluer.

Same for my state of Connecticut (see my tagline). With the gubernatorial election stolen in favor of the loathsome union thug Dan Malloy, CT is only going to get worse. Wish I could get the hell out of here before housing prices drop even more...

80 posted on 11/03/2010 10:00:22 AM PDT by nutmeg (Connecticut is now Vermont, San Francisco, Berkeley and Chicago all rolled into one)
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