Posted on 11/10/2010 3:17:14 PM PST by saganite
I wonder if I'm the first to call it, the reported unexplained missile launch off the coast of California, was US Airways 808.
I did a lot of extrapolation of what flights could be at the right position (off the coast) at the right altitude (for contrail formation) and came down to two possibilities: UPS flight 902 (UPS902) or US Airways flight 808 (AWE808).
As I was researching tonight (24 hours later), I realized that today's AWE808 current position (at around 4:50pm) was almost the same as it was the day of the incident. I quickly pulled up a Newport Beach webcam and found tha (apparently) AWE808 was making an identical contrail, 24 hours later!
Compare the above webcam image to the KCBS footage:
The comparison is quite clear. A remarkably similar, less-hyped, contrail created by the same flight almost exactly 24 hours later!
So, based on that, and the flight track of AWE808 24 hours earlier, I believe the mysterious missile off the coast of California on November 8, 2010, was in fact the contrail of US Airways flight 808, a flight originating in Honolulu , HI (PHNL) and ending in Phoenix (KPHX).
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TigersEye, read Angry’s comment.
Here is a video of the “second missile launch” the next day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJi2L4QC_fk
Given similar weather to Monday, I think we will be able to see a “missile launch” every day at about the same time (depending on airline scheduling and delays).
This needs to be put to rest so bad. I guess some won’t care what’s shown, true believers are gonna think it’s some missile no matter what.
I think they said nothing "unexpected" showed up on radar.
Yeah, as soon as I saw the contrail on Tuesday night, I knew the one on Monday was an airliner.
I don't think we'll see one tonight, though. It's overcast right now. :)
Jet contrails from some angles look like missile trails
Scroll down to the bottom of his article to check his updates...
If the plane was heading east, the CBS (Los Angeles) helicopter would have to be far south of Catalina Island to capture that shot. We'll need to know the helicopter's precise location as well as the exact time that the videotape was shot. If the helicopter was in the LA basin and the plane was headed east, the plane was probably over the San Fernando Valley (or even farther north) and was a different flight.
But might you concede this might also be a possibility?
http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/11/10/north-korea-develops-long-range-sub-nuke/
Absolutely. I have been saying the same things in different ways. I can’t claim to be a pilot but I did live a mile from a major airport for 27 years.
That photo was taken looking east, it has multiple trails from multiple engines and it isn’t opaque at any point along its length.
Obvious flame? More like an obvious reflection of the sun off the passenger jet's fuselage. Art Bell.....is that you?
With the very shallow angles, the actual, relative, and perceived speeds and positions of all the objects involved (sun, earth, plane, observers).....the sun low on the horizon, the “exhaust plume” is actually the glint of the sun off the bottom of the plane, or the glint of the reflection of the sun off the surface of the ocean.
But I didnt see it.
Commercial aircraft do not have afterburners. You will only find afterburners on some fighter aircraft.
They didn't. They said there were no UNIDENTIFIED objects on radar. They knew this was flight AWE808.
Was the one today another missile?
That little "flame" (reflection) on the "missile" was pretty weak. Compare it to actual missiles whose flame is much more visible.
I do photograph birds, but that’s only a recent thing. My main subject is aviation. I’ve been taking photos of commercial aviation for over 5 years. I just don’t blog about it on my “regular” blog site, but instead post them to flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liem/sets/72157602301367183/
Not always. If the temperature and humidity are correct, they can linger for a long time, sometimes longer than 20 hours. And some contrails GROW rather than dissipate.
It was a plane. Both days.
The parts of the video where the plane ("missile") appeared to be going fast were made using a strong telephoto lens. That makes things appear to move faster. When seen by a wider angle view, the plane appears to move normal speed.
Look at a plane with binoculars on a day with wispy clouds and it appears to be moving faster than when you observe with the naked eye.
I thought the government’s official position was “swamp gas”.
Probably because the conditions the second day weren't quite as good as the day before. Most days when multiple contrails come out, they can be seen individually since conditions are not optimum. On 'good' days they can be much fuller. You live in a cold winter climate as I do.
Some days car exhausts leave a tiny contrail or none at all. Other days, at least around here (Ohio), there is a huge billow of fog that persists. On very cold days, there can be icy fog in the air.
I imagine the other day above LA was one of those days when the conditions were just right to produce billows that were very persistent rather than weak ones that quickly disappear. Notice both days there were other clouds around. If it had been a clear day, this huge contrail wouldn't have been possible. No, I'm not a government puppet spouting the company line.
Look up "contrail persistence."
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