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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; Red Steel; El Gato; Danae
The security clearance paperwork requires you to list every single place you have ever resided and every place you have worked, and all of your relatives and friends with foreign connections or communist or other seditious sympathies so they can send agents to interview them. I still have it in my file. This interviewing and double-checking your statements takes six months or so.

Thank carp, I'm not trying to make an argument with you, however, what you experienced above is not more than I faced when I applied for the privilege of immigrating to the United States of America as a "normal" foreign citizen during the period of three and half years before entry visa was granted. And just remember I was not coming from high volume country either!

My paperwork, which I always take copies of contains 4 x 2" thick Office Depot hanging files in my filing cabinet under the title "Immigration papers". I didn't use an immigration attorney, but did all the paperwork manual by myself with the help of an old Underwood typewriter.!!

I gave you a link to a radio broadcast of the mentioned trial, it's about three hours and I just finished listening to it, which I can see you have not done. You may be surprise to learn how our Government is "really" operating which is swept under the rug by the State-run-Media. Have a nice Sunday, all!!!

105 posted on 11/13/2010 5:35:36 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: danamco
I will listen to the tape, although my neuro condition (CFS) limits sustained concentration...

In my view, Obama would never survive being screened out as a CIA candidate due to drug use and his huge number of associates with KGB ties and FBI files including his grandfather!

Unlike your immigration application, _all_ CIA applicants are subjected to lie detection testing to test all statements made about Marxist associates and drug use. Obama would fail and be rejected on both kinds of questions.

Also remember that after the Church Committee witch hunts in the mid-1970’s, the demoralized CIA clandestine services were practically gutted and under Carter the CIA head, Admiral Turner chose to rely on SigInt (signals intelligence from satellites and other sensors) rather than HumInt (human intelligence gathered by CIA officers posted to foreign countries to act as innocent Americans while recruiting “agents”...i.e. foreign nationals willing to betray their governments secrets).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stansfield_Turner

“Under Turner's direction, the CIA emphasized Technical intelligence (TECHINT) and Signal intelligence (SIGINT) more than Human intelligence (HUMINT). In 1979, Turner eliminated over 800 operational positions in what was called the Halloween Massacre. In a biography published in 2005, Turner expressed regret for the dismissals stating, ‘In retrospect, I probably should not have effected the reductions of 820 positions at all, and certainly not the last 17.’”

When Obama graduated from Columbia in the early 1980’s and would have supposedly been recruited, Reagan's CIA head William Casey nearly had to start up HumInt from scratch to turn back the aggressive Soviet moves all over the planet under Carter. Screening out communist infiltrators and fellow travelers crucial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey

“Casey oversaw the re-expansion of the Intelligence Community to funding and human resource levels greater than those existing before the preceding Carter Administration; in particular, he increased levels within the CIA. During his tenure, restrictions were lifted on the use of the CIA to directly and covertly influence the internal and foreign affairs of countries relevant to American policy.

“This period of the Cold War saw an increase in the Agency's global, anti-Soviet activities.”

BTW, you comments about Americans being spotted by Europeans and Nazis, while true, do not apply to clandestine CIA officers, only to special ops officers and I think we can agree that Obama was not one of those hardened warriors.

CIA officers in the clandestine services do not try to pass themselves off as foreign nationals, but rather as Americans who are not in the CIA but have some other reason for being abroad. That is the deception. So no reason to worry about forks!

106 posted on 11/13/2010 6:11:30 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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