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To: TopQuark
And why were they doing (some of) the things you allege? Is it not because the labor you mentioned has failed to stay competitive?

Lol, failed to stay competitive??? Competitive with whom, people in China and other cheap labor nations who work for scarcely 5% of US wages.

Do you think you're competitive? Tell us what you do and let's find out what you should make based on "competitive" worldwide compensation? Makes no difference what you do. You aren't competitive. No American is "competitive" with the cheapest labor in the world's poorest nations>

Get off your little self-constructed pedestal and tell us what you do so we can determine what you should be earning.

106 posted on 11/12/2010 5:27:34 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88
"Lol"

You shouldn't be the one laughing, Will.

"Competitive with whom, people in China and other cheap labor nations who work for scarcely 5% of US wages."

Yes, that is with whom we have to stay competitive. That is how it always was and how it will always be. Whenever we became noncompetitive, our wages fell, and rose at other times. In the 1921 recession --- the last one before socialists started to turn recessions into Great Depressions --- wages fell 30%.

We were different then, of course. Unlike you and most victims of mis-education today, people knew that such hardships were normal, something akin to acts of G-d. You be angry with a storm that took off your roof all you want, but it'll not help. Likewise here, you can be upset all you want when wages fall, but that is normal: you prepare for and endure it when it happens (with the help of community, friends and family).

The recession of 1921 was therefore deep but, as most other recessions, short. It lasted about 18 months, which is the average. What followed was the "golden age" lasting until the Great Depression, during which the middle class and the poor saw their incomes rise.

That changed when the American people have finally, after 40 years of propaganda, embraced socialism. They have been taught to be angry at capitalists, especially the banks. And you are a great example of that. Nobody but each of us individually is responsible for staying competitive. The misalignments will always occur, and it is still our own responsibility to prepare for them and endure.

But, please do follow the socialists if you are so inclined; continue to blame someone else for "robbing us of jobs." Beats learning some economics and realizing that you've been had by the socialists.

That you've been had by the socialists is evidenced also by the fact that you don't know how to count money, which naturally leads you to wrong conclusions. Please see post #33 if you care.

"Do you think you're competitive?"

Unlike the previous, factual error on your part, this one is logical. What difference does this make what I think about myself or what happens to me personally. The issue was what happens to American workers on average. People compute averages precisely because the circumstances are difference; some people are below, some at, and some are below average. So, what will it matter if I am super competitive and draw secure huge salary, or I not competitive at all, failing to find any job at all for five years. What would any of that prove? Nothing at all, of course.

The reason you turned the discussion from the issue to me personally is, of course, your assumption that I don't apply the same rules in my personal life. Your mother and preachers must've failed to tell you that it is not nice to assume the worst about people whom you don't know at all.

"Tell us what you do and let's find out.."

And who on earth are you, Willy, to ask that without saying please or, as you actually do, demand this from people?

No wonder you know little. You don't ask question about the substance of the issue, preferring to turn on people; and, when you do, you choose to be poor-mannered. It's your right, Willy; we still live in a free country. But if you continue to do so, you'll continue to be ignorant and angry for no reason.

"...what you should make based on "competitive" worldwide compensation?"

Once again, you reveal a complete misunderstanding of the issues involved. Focusing solely on wages is a mistake, which you continue to make post after post. If you speak about money and wages, you should at least slow down and understand how to count them. This is what you unfortunately say post after post:

"Makes no difference what you do. You aren't competitive. No American is "competitive" with the cheapest labor in the world's poorest nations."

Do some reading, Will. Go to a community college if you can. If you cannot, at least ask questions about things you know not --- instead of arguing about them.

127 posted on 11/12/2010 7:45:09 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Will88
" tell us what you do so we can determine what you should be earning."

Straight from Marx, Willy. It's because of the "conservatives" like you, who out of ignorance sing socialist songs, that we have neo-communists and neo-fascists in the White House.

129 posted on 11/12/2010 7:51:10 AM PST by TopQuark
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