[Flash Bazbeaux]

The “Pilgrims” were actually two groups of very different people thrown together — religious types and venturers. Myles Standish, for example, was not a pious churchgoer.

I have read that the religious among the Pilgrims WERE socialist, sort of, at first, and it damn near doomed their colony, and that it was only after they abandoned socialist-type thinking that they prospered.

[PeteB570]

As Rush states just about every year with the true story of Thanksgiving.

[cpdiii]

I have read that the religious among the Pilgrims WERE socialist, sort of, at first, and it damn near doomed their colony, and that it was only after they abandoned socialist-type thinking that they prospered.

You are correct sir! If the Indians had not assisted the pilgrims they would have starved.

The first time socialism was tried in North America it did not work. It still does not work!

[crz]

There were several sailings. Called what I believe was the Winthrope sailings? Dont know for sure and would have to check on that. Yet, My ancestors (Temples) were there in 1636 and got the hell out of there because of the constant infighting and legal cases for simple things like horses jumping fences and getting into neighbors fields. Abraham Temple was sued for that very thing.

They left England for religious persecution and what’d they do? They brought it right along with them. See what they did to Mary Dyer the Quaker Martyr who was hanged, Boston Commons 1660 for simply preaching the Quaker faith.

[goat granny]

They tried socialism the first year and lost over 1/2 the population...Wised up for the second year and gave each person a piece of land to raise their food....thanksgiving was the thank you to God for a bountiful harvest. (and capitalism) the farmers fed their family's and had enough left over to sell to the others.... Like the bible say's, he who does not work, does not eat..