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To: huckfillary
What a bunch of dumbasses ! To have any effect, the passengers are supposed to refuse the bodyscans AND the pat-downs. Until that happens, the system won’t be changed.

Yup. People still don't get it.  IMO course in order to fully comprehend exactly what is being protested, you have to actually take the time to think about it, and do just a bit of your own research.  Most people aren't familiar enough to the concept of the difference between a citizen and a subject. The bottom line on all of this is very simple to me and boils down to that one fact. I have rights, by virtue of having been born a human being that are granted me by my creator. This particular line is one that I will simply not allow the government to force me to cross. I cannot, even by the laws of this screwed up former Republic, be required to waive one right to exercise another. 

One thing I've noticed in a lot of the reporting, is that if you read very closely you will see that the government is attempting to accomplish through intimidation what it cannot through law. Even the stupid drones at TSA know that if you refuse to submit to them, and they are not able to bully or provoke you, that ultimately they have no real power. I'll be flying in less than a month, and am going to push this as far as it can be taken. Ultimately, it may well end up being a lawsuit if they don't recognise how far they can push without there being concrete consequences.

33 posted on 11/24/2010 10:18:38 PM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: zeugma
People still don't get it. ..actually take the time to think about it, ... Most people aren't familiar enough to the concept of the difference between a citizen and a subject. I have rights, by virtue of having been born a human being that are granted me by my creator. This particular line is one that I will simply not allow the government to force me to cross.

YOU GOT IT!! I'm surprised how so many are walking willingly into the gov't hands.

the government is attempting to accomplish through intimidation ...it may well end up being a lawsuit if they don't recognise how far they can push without there being concrete consequences.

EXACTLY! It is being used to intimidate and they seeing travelers b*tching but yet, going along w/the intimidation. One reason why they imposed the huge fine - another intimidation tactic. Imagine that - buying at ticket and then forfeiting that ticket and you still can't leave the airport but will be charged - that is above and beyond intimidation - you WILL obey or else.
35 posted on 11/25/2010 3:07:42 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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