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Assault Weapons and the Truth
National Review Online ^ | December 02, 2010 | John R. Lott Jr.

Posted on 12/02/2010 12:54:04 PM PST by JohnRLott

The Obama administration is moving into high gear in putting gun-control advocates into important government positions. The administration’s nominee to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), Andrew Traver, should be of particular concern. His attacks on the civilian use of so-called assault weapons raise real questions about his willingness to distort the truth for political purposes. The person nominated to be the nation’s top gun cop shouldn’t use inaccurate descriptions to scare people into supporting gun control. . . .

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andrewtraver; assaultweaponsban; atf; banglist; batf; guncontrol; johnlott; obama
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1 posted on 12/02/2010 12:54:10 PM PST by JohnRLott
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To: JohnRLott
ASSAULT WEAPONS

SCARY LOOKING BLACK GUNS THAT GIVE GIRLY MEN AND OTHER LIBERALS THE SWEATS

2 posted on 12/02/2010 1:00:16 PM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: JohnRLott
Assault Weapons and ON the Truth
3 posted on 12/02/2010 1:00:53 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: JohnRLott

Assault is an action, not a device


4 posted on 12/02/2010 1:02:41 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: JohnRLott

It does not surprise me in the least that the latest ‘bung-hole’ recruited to head the BATFE thinks .223 is a ‘heavy’ caliber.


5 posted on 12/02/2010 1:02:44 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: JohnRLott
This govt. is so stupid. All they have to do is ban guns and the American people will acquiesce.

The feds have the bigger guns, the propaganda, and others to enforce what they say.


6 posted on 12/02/2010 1:08:27 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: I see my hands

are you quoting someone....is that why it is in a box?? what is your point?

in present day America....yeah the Blue states will bend over and take it....but the Red states will secede if they try this.


7 posted on 12/02/2010 1:12:48 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: JohnRLott
They’re so powerful, body armor can’t withstand a hit, and they’re so difficult to control, their bullets often get sprayed beyond the intended targets, striking innocent victims even when they’re in their own homes.”

What a load of crap-ola!


8 posted on 12/02/2010 1:16:05 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: JohnRLott
When talking to lawyers, I have taken to calling anything signed by a judge as an Execution Order.

I point out to them that if lawyers are going around attempting to redefine military terms in the public eye, they can expect military people to redefine legalese.

What goes around, comes around.

9 posted on 12/02/2010 1:19:51 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: Vaquero

“.but the Red states will secede if they try this.”

I’m not so sure. NFA ‘34, GCA ‘68, AWB, the ban on full auto, Brady Act, all went down without too much trouble. Some congressmen lost their jobs, but the system survived.

Why do you think that this increment will be the line in the sand?

I think the plan will be to separate the Hunters from the Self Defense people, and pit both against the Insurrectionists. There are not enough insurrectionists (yet).


10 posted on 12/02/2010 1:21:34 PM PST by DBrow
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To: JohnRLott
Speaking of M16s, M4s, and AK-47s, Traver is correct when he states that the guns covered by the federal assault-weapons ban were “military-style weapons.” But he fails to note that this really just deals with style — the cosmetics of the guns, not how they actually operate. The guns covered by the ban were not the machine guns actually used by the military, but civilian, semi-automatic versions of those guns. The civilian version of the AK-47 may look like the guns used by militaries around the world, but it is different. It fires essentially the same bullets as deer-hunting rifles at the same rapidity (one bullet per pull of the trigger), and does the same damage.

well they should be the military versions....if we are going to go by the Constitution, as determined by the Supreme court in the 1930’s that only military weapons should be covered under the 2nd amendment. A bad ruling, that works in our favor under certain circumstances.

11 posted on 12/02/2010 1:22:15 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: WayneS

I wonder what he would think of my 44-40.


12 posted on 12/02/2010 1:22:31 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

He’d probably try to have it classified as an artillery piece.


13 posted on 12/02/2010 1:24:25 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Vaquero
"are you quoting someone....is that why it is in a box?? what is your point? in present day America....yeah the Blue states will bend over and take it....but the Red states will secede if they try this."

I was not quoting someone.

Why don't you communicate in standard English? Are you a contrarian, is that your point? What is with the double question marks, are you from a foreign land? And why the incorrect and overuse of ellipses? Got something against the proper use of capital letters? If not, why don't your sentences begin with them? Why are the words "Blue" and "Red" capitalized?

My point is the red states won't secede nor will the blue.


14 posted on 12/02/2010 1:31:41 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: I see my hands

I am from the Land of Wind and Ghosts. I emphasize things the way that I like to. capitals, parenthasis, underlined, whatever makes me smile.

and you can push a Patriot just so far...and America has been pushed to far....

Are you some sort of legal person, a lawyer who needs to have his tees crossed and his eyes dotted, just so??

I am not impressed.


15 posted on 12/02/2010 1:45:35 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
16 posted on 12/02/2010 1:45:39 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Vaquero
"Are you some sort of legal person, a lawyer who needs to have his tees crossed and his eyes dotted, just so?? I am not impressed"

No, you're the one who inquired. Glad you're not impressed, you weren't supposed to be.

PS: (Ts, Is.)


17 posted on 12/02/2010 1:53:45 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: JohnRLott

I worked with Traver several years ago, and I remember when he was a wet behind the ears newly minted Special Agent. I’m surprised that he’ll be pulled out of the Chicago office, when Illinois is such an anti-gun state.


18 posted on 12/02/2010 2:09:56 PM PST by TheBlueMax ("Will kill foreigners so you don't have too!" U.S.Military)
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To: Iron Munro

You mean the $*its, yes?


19 posted on 12/02/2010 3:09:34 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Vaquero
If you want to get into trouble at Free Republic, argue that given the natural law right to self defense, if you could afford it, it is acceptable for you to own a nuclear powered aircraft carrier battle group with air wing. That's how you find out how serious the posers are in their support for the constitution. Hint: it's not even about the 2nd Amendment. They just wanted to give special emphasis to this point. Under the Constitution the Feds cannot regulate firearms anyway. But they said in the 2nd that the States can't either and the Fed dam sure can't!
20 posted on 12/02/2010 3:42:10 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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