Skip to comments.Breaking: House Passes "Dream Act"
Posted on 12/08/2010 6:22:20 PM PST by Skeez
House passes immigration bill known as "Dream Act" 216 to 198
This is insane!
When I was a kid, I had a deadbeat dad. No one gave me ANYTHING. I earned my way through school, attended community college to start. I married a soldier, and we have worked for everything we have. Nothing was EVER guaranteed to me ever in life.
And now these punks whose parents brought them here illegaly will receive free in-state tuition, every aid, and acceptance into our military w/ additional benefits to them and their dependents ...and believe me, they will MILK that as well.
And the benefits of citizenship to those whose foundation in this country was built on breaking the law. And believe this — NONE of them are interested in the rule of law, or in contributing anything to this country. They are here to do what they’ve always done: take, take, take.
They make me sick. And our disgusting representatives in this Congress also make me sick. Such traitors to America this country has EVER known!!!
Where do things stand in the Senate vote wise for cloture and a possible final vote. When does the lame duck session end?
I'm about as "liberal" as Attila the Hun. For the past twenty years the federal government and the general population has looked the other way as millions of folks have entered this country for jobs. That's because the employers, and you, needed their services. Now that the worm has turned, suddenly the federal government is building 2500 bed immigration detention facilities and everyone on FR is screaming "deport them all"....in the middle of this mess is a bunch of kids...no different from yours....who came here when they were 2 (or 4, or 6, etc) holding their momma's hand who are now 20 and just want a chance to become a regular person....they want a drivers license and a job. Many would join our military and fight for this country....you would deny them that chance. Back to "liberal"...I would change our immigration laws back to the 1964 version if I were in charge....European based immigration, and keep America a Western Culture....but these kids deserve a chance.
I do believe you are correct regarding “northwinds”.
I don't know. Reid planned to have the vote today, then decided to let the House vote first, probably because he didn't have the votes. It'll be close, and many commentators have been saying it has no chance, but I've never quite been that confident. There are six or eight Dims who are up in 2012 who won't be as reliable to Reid and Obama as during the past two years.
Mike Castle was one of only 3 gringos to vote for this monstrosity
The DREAM act appears to have a pretty minimal set of requirments.
Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:48:22 PM · 100 of 198 northwinds to La Enchiladita
Reminds me of last week in the grocery store line.....a young hispanic couple in front of me had two carts loaded with groceries and were paying for it with food stamps. They were laughing, speaking in Spanish, and grabbing on each other the whole time as the clerk had to negotiate the food stamp voucher process. Not to mention that the guy had on a Mexico t-shirt. Their last item was dog food...which they had to pay for with cash. When it was my turn, I looked at the cashier and said I guess I paid for those groceries and mine tonight....her response was you got that right. And because this is played out over and over in America I will not get my money back from social security when I turn 62 after working and contributing for forty years...and Im not supposed to be angry about that?
First you bitch and NOW you want to make their children citizens? You're not impressing anyone here. You're full of it.
How long before the 1st shots of CWII? It ought to be a capital offense to vote for this piece of crap.
Mexico, a third world poverty crime-ridden sh!t hole of a country......COME ON DOWN!!!
We don't have enough of you illiterate criminal scumbag wetback beaners here to destroy America.....we need more.
I’m not impressed with your “moderation”
It is our politicians, not our country, that we should be ashamed of. Stay strong.
I guess you missed the fact that it was the Hispanic Cubans in Dade County, Florida that won the election for 'W'....LMAO.
“Republicans” who voted YEA:
I don’t know Ehlers or much about Djou, but the rest are no surprise...actually expected. Why is Inglis so liberal on illegal immigration?
We’re not talking about “kids”...apparently you haven’t been paying attention
Not the point. They’re ILLEGAL! What part of that don’t you understand? The 14th. Amendment dealt with Black slaves having kids in the free states. Nothing to do with illegals having kids in the US to become automatic citizens.
The same ones who vated for Obama?
bs... how arrogant of you to lump everybody into this... no i have not needed their services...
I'm calling you out as a liberal infiltrator to this site. You said on another thread about the DREAM Act, that "the House did the right thing..."
You obviously don't understand the true gravity of this vote, or how the DREAM Act will open the door to millions upon millions of illegals being amnestied in the near future.
Read what the bill REALLY PROVIDES, not the pablum put out by the media! Do you believe in Santa Claus as well??? Hopefully the Senate will bury this monstrosity!
DREAM Act Passes 216-198
December 8th, 2010 by Karina
“Tonight, the House passed the DREAM Act by a vote of 216-198”:
Same here. I mow my own lawn.
Not only that, dear panthermom...all they have to do is CLAIM to have been here for five years, CLAIM to have enrolled in one class, CLAIM to have come here before age 16, or whatever. Who's going to check up on them? Who's going to prove whether they're lying or telling the truth? No one. That would be "insensitive" and "racist." They'll just be taken at their word! There will be a run for the border now as millions more try to get in on the gravy train!
Now that’s surprising and disappointing.
She’s such an anti-Castro, pro Cuban
blockade advocate, I wouldn’t have
thought she’d do this.
Guess it’s in the blood .. dang.
I am not anymore happy when I see a deadbeat black or white family using food stamps....that doesn't mean I want their children's lives to be destroyed....if these "Dream Act" kids are bad apples then deport their arses...if not give them a chance...that's the American way.
Please help the rest of us to understand why you feel so confident that this will not pass the Senate. A lot of us need a bit of reassurance at the moment.
THEN THEY CAN GET IN BACK OF THE LINE FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION! We have enough problems without MORE mouths to feed!
Your objection is why of cloture passes, the next thing the Senate GOP has to do is offer a floor amendment forbidding consideration of DREAM Act beneficiaries in the application of family-reunification immigration laws or regulations.
It might not work, but if such an amendment passes and makes it into the final bill, it renders it far less objectionable both legally and morally: a DREAM Act with a cut-off to prevent chain migration/legalization of its beneficiaries would really be about not visiting the crimes of parents on their children. As it is, it’s a stealth general amnesty. If it can’t be stopped by a filibuster in the Senate, at least we need to make the ‘Rats and RINOs go on record as wanting it to be a stealth general amnesty, by giving an alternative that does what they purport to want from the act without being a stealth general amnesty.
Such an amendment passing in the Senate might also scuttle the whole thing in conference.
If you don't understand that the Cubans in Dade County, Florida put 'W' into the White House then you are not a student of history....or even have a clue as to politics
They can be a regular person in Meh-Hee-Co, maybe they could even help to improve the standard of living in that God-Forsaken country, with the education they obtained here.
Ehlers is a retiring 'moderate'. Djou was beaten in Nov but trying to keep his electoral future alive in Hawai'i.
Why is Inglis so liberal on illegal immigration?
Inglis stated that since his return to Congress he's been voting what he believes, thus moderate to liberal. Ever since he got crushed in the primary this year he's been hell-bent on embracing his inner socialist. He'll probably head up Republicans for Obama in 2012.
I guess you agree with Bush when he wanted to create "a new America"? How is what Bush wanted to do any different than what Obama, Reid and Pelosi are trying to do?
|We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.
Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.
For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.
Our future cannot be separated from the future of Latin America.
As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.
George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.
Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:
In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster
Because you CANNOT be serious with the cliched garbage you're posting.
10 % unemployment, a deficit in the trillions, a welfare state out of control, an exploding ethnic voting block that goes 60% democrat. I know - lets legalize 5 or 6 million more illegal mouths to feed. And their parents.
Really, I thought we ran all the open border ninnies & lawbreaking employers off this site.
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Johnson, E. B.
Sánchez, Linda T.
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I agree with you totally...so why don’t you just come out and say that you believe that the U.S. should be a White, Western Civilzation country and we will not have any more black, hispanic, or asian immigratiion....but don’t punish the kids that we let in when we needed Daddy’s labor.
Ros-Lehtinen probably rates an “F” on immigration issues from a conservative perspective.
You are disgusting for pulling the race card. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with “ILlegal”. Not legal. Breaking rules. And everything that follows after that. Illegals are allowed in because of leftist, globalist agendas.
It is ruinous and you are a cheerleader for this hateful crap.
"Dane" is back....
its so sad to think that you really believe, deep down in your heart, that you never received any "services" or assistance from any of these kid's parents over the last twenty years.....that's funny, I don't care where you're from....LMAO.
Who the frick is "Dane" and what does he have to do with this discussion?
If I owned this site... you would be removed from the membership.
You keep using the word “kids” in your defense of this legislation.
This means you are either stupid or a liar as any reading of the Bill will tell you it’s not about “kids”.
But I know you’re just playing a silly little game because your messiah obama is getting bloodied every day...have your fun.
Oooh, nice one:
So according to you, anyone who opposes the Dream Act hates Hispanic children.
Why don't you just cut to the chase and say conservatives are racist and hate children?
DREAM Act has no limits on chain-migration...would mean citizenship for untold millions
November 22nd, 2010 2:29 am ET
Their DREAM Act...our nightmare
Under federal law, U.S. citizens as well as legal permanent residents can petition to bring their immediate relatives to this country. As such, those amnestied under the proposed DREAM Act will be able to lawfully bring family members to the U.S., with no limits as to the number of relatives who can then, legally enter this nation.
If and when this bill becomes law, the government estimates that 2.1 million illegal aliens will qualify for and receive green cards, at that point, their spouse and children (without age limit) can and will receive them as well.
Based on the federal governments low estimate of those illegal aliens who will qualify for amnesty, and assuming each of those illegal aliens has at least four family members they either want to bring here from another nation, or to assist in legalizing those living in the U.S. illegallythe DREAM Act would translate into 10.5 million new Americans.
Remember, that is only based upon the governments very conservative estimate, the truth is, no one knows exactly how many illegal aliens will qualify for amnesty under the proposed bill, although it is safe to assume that the actual number will be a great deal higher than what we are being told.
It should also be noted that while the DREAM Act is supposed to apply only to those who were brought to the U.S. illegally, as children--the legislation also allows for the White House to issue waivers for any and all regulations and qualifications, as the president sees fit.
In other words under the DREAM Act, Obama can grant a so-called pathway to citizenship to every illegal alien in this country.
You're either a liberal infiltrator or ignorant as hell. We're not in the mood for games, northwinds. They will love you over at the DU. Slide on over there..
As a “hispanic kid” of Cuban origin, I came here legally with my parents.
I resent your comments. You and your liberal brethren can maintain all these illegal moochers, I will not.
Let them all go home and apply legally to re-enter the country. I want them all out of here. Back to where they “illegally” came from.
That makes you
a) a moron
b) a liberal minded ethnic tribalist
or c) a greedbag lawbreaking employer of illegal aliens.
I'm going with c).
I would have to agree, raybbr.
This is a 'Dane' moment.