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Our inept Rat-infested legislature can't do their job, so we are going to punt back to the voters ... where you can either raise taxes or cut services ... but you can't touch pension payouts for union members

1 posted on 12/09/2010 4:10:05 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
Certainly California voters were aware that the Democrats they voted into office were NOT going to touch pensions ~

I suspect Mitch Daniels is looking at this as an opportunity to pick off some of the top departments in the universities in the California university systems. Sure they got winter in Indiana, but the school buildings are still open, still heated, still paying salaries.

One does hope he makes sure to demand Secret level security clearances though.

2 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Zakeet

And so the Sun sets on Never-neverland...


3 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:41 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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I rather suspect that this is just teeing things up for a run at demanding a federal bailout - no doubt that would be handled as a “dire emergency” for which the lame-duck Congress would be called back into session to hand out more “free” money to the socialists and unions that’ve ruined California.


4 posted on 12/09/2010 4:21:21 AM PST by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Zakeet

In 2010, CA veered hard left while FL elected more conservatives from top to bottom.

The next few years will make the two states an interesting study in contrasts.


5 posted on 12/09/2010 4:21:21 AM PST by Jacquerie (Our Constitution is timeless because human nature is static.)
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“The previous legislature spent us into a hole and we will have to dig us out. “
“Uhhh....that analogy doesn’t make any sense and you are the previous legislature”


6 posted on 12/09/2010 4:21:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Zakeet

As long as they have ink in their printers they have money.


7 posted on 12/09/2010 4:22:50 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Zakeet

Don’t worry. They will just raise taxes on the rich. The common people won’t notice a thing! :)


8 posted on 12/09/2010 4:24:09 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Zakeet; Larry Lucido; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Gamecock

JERRY: You should just do it like a Band-Aid. One motion! Right off!


9 posted on 12/09/2010 4:26:17 AM PST by earlJam
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The unions own California. As long as that is true nothing will be done that will fix the problem.

They can tax 100% of the income (until everyone that produces anything moves) but it will not be enough.

As my tag line says, money is not the problem, it is spending.


10 posted on 12/09/2010 4:33:47 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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I think I’m going to enjoy watching Brown destroy himself. Brings back the image of the Buddhist monk in 1963 Saigon pouring gasoline on himself and striking a match.

http://www.famouspictures.org/mag/index.php?title=Burning_Monk


13 posted on 12/09/2010 4:51:51 AM PST by sergeantdave
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I seem to recall that many times over the last few decades (ever since the famous Prop 13, which is the first big referendum I remember), CA voters have attempted to limit how much money the politicians can extort from them. Then they elect far left “representatives” to whom it’s a game to spend on every little thing they can think of, then complain that there isn’t enough revenue to cover “vital services” and use that as an excuse to find another way to tax that the voters haven’t already shut off.

CA doesn’t need a bailout, and the Fed doesn’t have the money for it anyway. We’re beginning to see inflation already from all the stimulus and bailouts so far; how much will it accelerate with more bailouts? Let the state of CA keep giving out IOUs, and then, let’s wait and see if the union rank-and-file members keep voting for far left liberals when they figure out that the promises of generous pay, benefits, and pensions can’t be kept. CA is in dire need of sanity. Probably having potential voters show valid IDs to register and vote wouldn’t hurt, either.


14 posted on 12/09/2010 5:15:43 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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Now that the Dems completely control the Kalifornia government, from top to bottom, who will the people blame when it finally collapses in a cloud of IOU’s?..................


17 posted on 12/09/2010 5:41:29 AM PST by Red Badger (The House finally fell on Nancy Pelosi..........)
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He won't discuss his plans publicly, but people involved in the private discussions expect him to propose a special election

Translation: we have enough socialist voters now to overturn Prop 13. Currently CA property taxes are limited to 1% of the property's value per year. In the northeastern states without Prop 13, property taxes run 3 to 4 times this. The money is used to hire ridiculous amounts of lazy union government workers.

25 posted on 12/09/2010 6:46:10 AM PST by Reeses
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Dems are already talking about new taxes.

This is gonna spiral out of control.

Prop 13 is almost certainly on the chopping block, at some point. There’s just too big a gap - the budget deficit is now growing beyond the size of other states’ entire budgets - and rapidly getting worse.

Now that liberals have all the levers - there will be ZERO reduction in any spending.

(not that Arnold was any better in that regard)

Cali is in for a rough ride, economically.


26 posted on 12/09/2010 6:48:01 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Zakeet
the guy couldn't prioritize the sequence of a cheese toast

lets see,to function you NEED: the Police&Courts&CorrectionsDepts / FireDept / CountyClerk / DMV&HighwayMaint / Electric&Water&Sewer...

pretty much ANYTHING ELSE, is a WANT/GIMMIE...

it's not rocket science

27 posted on 12/09/2010 6:56:53 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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28 posted on 12/09/2010 7:13:52 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Zakeet
Approve new taxes or other revenue in a special election, or live with far fewer government services.

Let's see. I do not get welfare or food stamps. I don't have my kids fed for free at school (3 meals). I pay my bills. I pay my taxes. Our roads are sh1t anyway.

I'm not sure what goverment services I care about. Cut 'em all.

30 posted on 12/09/2010 7:15:17 AM PST by super7man
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Might be helpful reading for conservatives behind the Tofu Curtain. California voters chose their future in November.

31 posted on 12/09/2010 7:21:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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