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Breyer: Founding Fathers Would Have Allowed Restrictions on Guns
Foxnews ^ | Dec 12, 2010 | Foxnews

Posted on 12/12/2010 11:33:59 AM PST by driftdiver

If you look at the values and the historical record, you will see that the Founding Fathers never intended guns to go unregulated, Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer contended Sunday.

Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Breyer said history stands with the dissenters in the court's decision to overturn a Washington, D.C., handgun ban in the 2008 case "D.C. v. Heller."

Breyer wrote the dissent and was joined by Justices John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. He said historians would side with him in the case because they have concluded that Founding Father James Madison was more worried that the Constitution may not be ratified than he was about granting individuals the right to bear arms.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; billofrights; davidsouter; johnpaulstevens; partyoftreason; ruthbaderginsburg; scotus; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; stephenbreyer
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To: SampleMan

Ping


201 posted on 12/13/2010 5:31:00 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: SampleMan

Oops, meant to type:

BTTT


202 posted on 12/13/2010 5:31:30 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Cincinatus

I’d imagine Beyer has read the history. He just has an agenda to revise it to something he wants.

The idea of the “little people “ actually having firearms probably scares him.


203 posted on 12/13/2010 5:58:22 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
The American people should always remain informed, and vigilant. To not do such, invites evil people (who wish to remove rights) to remove rights from the People. May this thread help to halt any progression by those evil people to remove the God Given Rights, granted by God to All Americans. Yes, I did say All Americans. Isn't it marvelous to live in a nation where mistakes can be acted upon to make a more perfect a union, and those who desire more mistakes can be not supported by the people? Another reason to Love America!

Thank you, for posting this thread.

204 posted on 12/13/2010 6:23:59 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Gadsden1st

1. I’m no Palin-hater, but she would most likely get slaughtered in a general election.

2. No Court-packing attempt would succeed.

3. No Court-packing attempt should even have to be made. For one thing, had Reagan and Bush the Elder not screwed up so royally with Kennedy (yeah he’s good on this issue...so far, but he’s unreliable overall) and Souter, we’d have 6 solid conservatives on the Court right now. But even more than that, the Sup Court should not have as much power as it has given itself. The Court was never intended to be a supreme policy maker, and it’s questionable how many of the Founders intended the Sup Court to be the final arbiter on Constitutional matters. Jefferson didn’t. And remember when anti-Federalist Brutus warned about what the Sup Court could become, Federalist Hamilton did not refute him by saying that ‘yes, Brutus is right about how much power the Constitution gives the Sup Court and that is what we intend’, but rather said the concerns and warnings were unfounded. Had the early Sup Court made the type of outrageous decisions they’ve routinely made for the last 60 years, then I seriously doubt that the early Presidents, Congresses, and State governments would have just meekly accepted them (or accepted the idea that they must obey them).

So that is the big problem; a federal judiciary with way too much power. Unfortunately we’ve been conditioned to accept judicial supremacy and the idea that the only way to undo a Sup Court decision is with an Amendment or later decision.

Breyer is a loathsome justice. He scorns legitimate rights while trying to invent new ones without a shred of Constitutional merit. In addition to his disregard for property and Second Amendment rights, he also apparently thinks that First Amendment speech rights should contain a loophole when it comes to insulting the Religion of Peace, as shown by his comments on the whole Koran-burning saga from a few months ago.


205 posted on 12/13/2010 7:38:23 AM PST by Aetius
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To: driftdiver

“Founding Fathers Would Have Allowed Restrictions on Guns
...” But They DIDN’T, Steve.


206 posted on 12/13/2010 9:01:44 AM PST by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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To: SampleMan
Here ya go: Bogus Quotes Attributed to the Founders

The quote as you posted it has been edited to remove the anachronisms, but as you can see there were some howlers in the original.

207 posted on 12/13/2010 10:17:40 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SampleMan

And here are some authenticated ones:

http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/general/FoundersQuotes.htm


208 posted on 12/13/2010 10:19:31 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: driftdiver

He literally doesn’t know the history of the Constitution.

The dissenter’s opinion in Heller was laughable and was called to account in the majority opinion.


209 posted on 12/13/2010 10:33:20 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: Farmer Dean
To quote another freeper today also;Natural causes-and soon.

No, not "soon". Do you want The Won to get another appointment who'll screw us for decades after the error resulting in his election has long been corrected?

210 posted on 12/13/2010 4:51:10 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: JohnD9207

No, I believe that was Souter. (Unless BOTH towns tried it)


211 posted on 12/13/2010 4:52:15 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
How could such an ignoramus get on the Supreme Court?

When an ignoramus like Bill Clinton gets elected to the Presidency.

212 posted on 12/13/2010 4:53:41 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Sender
The scales of liberty are teetering at 5-4 way too often. It would only take one change to tip the other way.

True. I was hoping for one more pick for W (Kennedy or one of the libs). It was the one thing he actually seemed to do well.

213 posted on 12/13/2010 4:55:27 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DemonDeac
Thomas is an idiot and comes off as one whenever he opens his mouth. He was a token pick who would never have been selected were he a white man but tokens can vote and he votes just fine.

Huh?? Thomas is my favorite justice, even better than Scalia. If he's such a moron why are there some cases where he is the ONLY correct vote?

214 posted on 12/13/2010 5:00:41 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

You’re right,I hadn’t thought about that.


215 posted on 12/13/2010 5:29:22 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: driftdiver
Said the Justice (who would like me to mention his name): "...should regard the Constitution as containing unwavering values that must be applied flexibly to ever-changing circumstances."

Uh, no.

The only "flexibility" in the constitution is the provision of a defined amendment process which must be followed when and if it is believed necessary to account for "changing circumstances".

But thanks for playing.

(now get out).

216 posted on 12/13/2010 6:43:27 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: Vision

dont forget Sam Alito...excellent.


217 posted on 12/14/2010 7:05:20 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Vision; DemonDeac; Huck; allblues; FR_addict; MileHi; freedomwarrior998; AnAmericanMother; ...

http://www.2shared.com/audio/sRXOdCPa/Oct_1_07_-_Clarence_Thomas_Int.html


218 posted on 12/16/2010 6:41:06 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Leftys who zone in on Palin miss the point. America's not about single figures. That's for NK/Cuba.)
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