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NRA to Push Aggressive Legislative Agenda During
Wisconsin's 2011 Legislative Session
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| 16 December, 2010
| NRA-ILA
Posted on 12/16/2010 8:20:22 PM PST by marktwain
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I must give the NRA credit here. The NRA is joining forces with the other Wisconsin gun rights organizations. They are all pushing for Constitutional Carry. This is excellent news! On Wisconsin!!
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posted on
12/16/2010 8:20:30 PM PST
by
marktwain
To: 50cal Smokepole
ping
Hope your Libtard state has influence on my Libtard state.
To: marktwain
Hopefully Constitutional Carry does not turn the right to carry into a permit/privilege to carry. There should be no permits required to carry concealed. Why don’t I need to have a permit to carry openly, but need one to carry concealed? Why does where I have my gun determine if it’s a right to carry or a privilege that government can easily take away? (Ex San Diego sheriff).
Because that is a huge step backwards. States can revoke privileges.
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posted on
12/16/2010 8:40:03 PM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: Clint N. Suhks
We'll have to see. Constitutional Carry is the way to go, but we have too many squishy pubbies. I don't know how it's all going to play out, but it looks like “shall issue” is a sure thing. It might get done fairly quickly. Better to have CC and permits that allow for reciprocity. Good luck with your state — Wisc. did the unthinkable and ousted the rat goober and both houses of the legislature.
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posted on
12/16/2010 8:43:59 PM PST
by
50cal Smokepole
(Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
To: marktwain
way cool. we can finally have a little fun in this purple state.
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posted on
12/16/2010 8:51:00 PM PST
by
the crow
(If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - Enterprise)
To: marktwain
Not interested in the NRA anymore.
They became traitors to Conservatives by endorsing Democrats in the last election.
To: SoConPubbie
I agree. They endorsed Kagen in the 8th Congressional district. Fortunately, he lost. NRA wants to be a single issue organization, but that isn’t realistic when they endorse statists and collectivists.
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posted on
12/16/2010 9:36:27 PM PST
by
Honcho Bongs
(Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. - Churchill)
To: 50cal Smokepole; Clint N. Suhks; marktwain; Diana in Wisconsin; arizonarachel; Arizona Carolyn
It might get done fairly quickly. Better to have CC and permits that allow for reciprocity.Alaska had permits first, then went Constitutional carry, i.e. an unencumbered right for concealed carry, keeping permits for the purpose of reciprocity with other states. I suspect Arizona may have done the same, but I'm not sure.
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posted on
12/16/2010 9:43:40 PM PST
by
neverdem
(Xin loi minh oi)
To: neverdem
I like the idea of Constitutional carry and permits for those who so choose to go thru the “shall issue” BS so reciprocity agreements can be had. If I choose to carry only in Wisc, then I shouldn't have to deal with “shall issue” crap. Then again, that holds true for everywhere else. The 2A means what it says.
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posted on
12/16/2010 9:56:52 PM PST
by
50cal Smokepole
(Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
To: Honcho Bongs; SoConPubbie
I agree. They endorsed Kagen in the 8th Congressional district. Fortunately, he lost. NRA wants to be a single issue organization, but that isnt realistic when they endorse statists and collectivists.Where's the damage to the Second Amendment from endorsing rats? Why do you think there's been no serious gun grabbing since the rats took Congress in Nov. 2006? GWB said he would have signed a renewed so called assault weapons ban. IIRC, 64 rats in the House wrote Holder and told him to pound sand after he started talking about a renewal of a so called assault weapons ban. The NRA didn't endorse any rat senator for the U.S. Senate last month.
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posted on
12/16/2010 9:57:53 PM PST
by
neverdem
(Xin loi minh oi)
To: Honcho Bongs
I'm in the 8th, and that NRA endorsement really pissed me off. A lot.
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posted on
12/16/2010 10:02:06 PM PST
by
50cal Smokepole
(Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
To: neverdem; All
Why do you think there's been no serious gun grabbing since the rats took Congress in Nov. 2006?
And you actually believe its because the politicians had a change of heart and/or because the NRA pushed these fights forward?... TOTAL B.S. and you know it!
The reason the anti-gun laws have been falling left and right across the country is due to the activism of SOME gun owners and LOCAL/STATE gun rights groups. Hell the frigging NRA sat on the sidelines most of the time twiddling their thumbs and courting Commie Dems.
I'm glad the NRA finally decided to get back in the fight and I'll give them credit where credit is due, such as this case, but it will take a very long time to win back the loyalty of members... well except for the groupies that are more than willing to look the other way while a NRA shiv is again pushed into the Second Amendments back.
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posted on
12/17/2010 2:53:45 AM PST
by
AvOrdVet
("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
To: SoConPubbie
I agree with you. This is the NRA trying to mend fences. Too little. Too late.
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posted on
12/17/2010 6:01:02 AM PST
by
Buckeye Battle Cry
(Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
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posted on
12/17/2010 6:10:37 AM PST
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: Secret Agent Man
Hopefully Constitutional Carry does not turn the right to carry into a permit/privilege to carry. There should be no permits required to carry concealed."Constitutional Carry" is shorthand for "no permits required to carry open or concealed". The article says they're modeling the legislation after AK and AZ, and that's the case in both states, though at least in AZ, they still issue CCW's for those who want them, in most cases to use in other states that recognize them.
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posted on
12/17/2010 6:57:11 AM PST
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
To: neverdem
I suspect Arizona may have done the same, but I'm not sure. I suspect Arizona may have done the same, but I'm not sure. That's correct, neverdem.
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posted on
12/17/2010 6:58:58 AM PST
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
To: 50cal Smokepole; Secret Agent Man; neverdem
I like the idea of Constitutional carry and permits for those who so choose to go thru the shall issue BS so reciprocity agreements can be had.Even THAT's a temporary measure. Once all the states you travel to ALSO have Constitutional Carry, you won't even need a permit for that.
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posted on
12/17/2010 7:00:46 AM PST
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
To: neverdem
Well, they did give Harry Reid $5K and Angle nothing, and probably would have explicitly endorsed him had it not been for the uproar. Reid’s campaign trumpeted the donation as if it were a de facto endorsement. It’s hard to argue with them about that.
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posted on
12/17/2010 7:03:01 AM PST
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
To: Still Thinking
Even THAT's a temporary measure. Once all the states you travel to ALSO have Constitutional Carry, you won't even need a permit for that. If a state has "shall issue" CCW (you get your license automatically if you have not criminal record), there is no justification for not going Constitutional Carry. All a cop should have to do is run your ID through their database, see that you have no criminal record that would debar you from having a gun, and send you on your way.
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posted on
12/17/2010 7:06:32 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
To: PapaBear3625
Not exactly. “Shall issue” != “No pre-conditions issue”. They still have training requirements and so on. I do agree that ConCarry is better, is, well...Constitutional, and is in fact our right, but it’s not the same as Shall Issue.
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posted on
12/17/2010 7:10:30 AM PST
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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