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Rep. Conyers (Dolt-Mich): Calls for criminal charges against WikiLeaks founder 'extreme'
The Hill ^ | December 16, 2010 | Gautham Nagesh

Posted on 12/17/2010 9:07:04 AM PST by Zakeet

The Obama and Bush administrations have classified too much information unnecessarily and contributed to an overly secretive atmosphere surrounding U.S. policy, lawmakers at a House Judiciary Committee hearing said Thursday.

At a hearing on the legal implications of potentially prosecuting WikiLeaks, panel Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) said the group’s recent dissemination of classified diplomatic cables might have been embarrassing for the government but that the real-world consequences have been fairly modest.

He labeled calls for criminal charges against site founder Julian Assange "extreme measures" and said the widespread outrage in Washington is a sign that caution is needed before proceeding.

"Prosecuting WikiLeaks would raise the most fundamental questions about free speech, about who is a journalist and what citizens can know about their government," Conyers said. "The problem today is not too little secrecy but too much secrecy."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: assange; conyers; dsa; florida; johnconyers; julianassange; michigan; treason; wikileaks
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... and as Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, I can assure you that the fact that American troops will be killed and injured, and U.S. diplomacy and intelligence gathering was seriously damaged has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the necessary and patriotic actions taken by Julian Assange ...

1 posted on 12/17/2010 9:07:11 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

How’d Mrs. Conyers doing these days, congressman ?
Been over to the Graybar Hotel for a visit lately ?


2 posted on 12/17/2010 9:09:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Zakeet

Translation: Liberals and socialists are above the law.

F’ers!


3 posted on 12/17/2010 9:10:08 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Translation: They’re all for the leaks.


4 posted on 12/17/2010 9:11:34 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Zakeet
John Conyers: Traitorous, and Smug About ItTM
5 posted on 12/17/2010 9:15:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 19 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: Zakeet

What’s sad is I’ve seen a lot of FReepers defending the scum Assange.


6 posted on 12/17/2010 9:16:09 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Zakeet

They got nothing on Assange but an alleged broken condom. Assange is the alleged fallguy for the government to start regulating the internet, which includes monitoring and spying. Assange is a government patsy. Nothing else.


7 posted on 12/17/2010 9:16:27 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Lazamataz

Even a stopped clock is right sometimes. Assange, in ripping the facade of our corrupt political masters, is right. Without him, they would have kept this dirt (including their role in climategate) hidden for decades. BTW, if Conyers is a trator so are Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh for quoting and documents made available by Assange.


8 posted on 12/17/2010 9:18:27 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Zakeet

All your Christmas turkeys are mine!


9 posted on 12/17/2010 9:23:19 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Captain Kirk
I do get the 'corrupt political masters' angle, and I'm actually with ya, but there are ways to expose these people without seriously hurting our national interests.

In the process of removing the rotting teeth, let us not cut off the head.

10 posted on 12/17/2010 9:23:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 19 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: Zakeet

Why isn’t anyone talking about the gay soldier that actually stole the documents he knew were classified?


11 posted on 12/17/2010 9:25:17 AM PST by Spok (Obama: clueless, classless, clown.)
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To: Zakeet

Given the Pentagon Papers case and its precedent, I don’t know that they can successfully prosecute him. And if he gets prosecuted, then you have to nail the NY Times too, it published some of what he published. If its a crime to publilsh it second hand then its a crime to publish it third hand.


12 posted on 12/17/2010 9:26:51 AM PST by circlecity
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Maybe Assange can break into computers used by the Democrat Party and splash what he finds all over the internet?

Nah ... that's only reserved for conservative Republican organizations.

13 posted on 12/17/2010 9:27:09 AM PST by StormEye
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To: Lazamataz

I hope I live long enough to see this traiterous piece of
#&@$ tried by a jury of his piers. He is one of the most Anti-American Congressmen in the history of the country.


14 posted on 12/17/2010 9:28:59 AM PST by kempster
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To: Lazamataz
, but there are ways to expose these people without seriously hurting our national interests.

Please note that these are NOT top secret documents. They are embassy cables with a much lower classification. If we are going to hang Assange out to dry for merely disseminating this information (Hannity, etc. have also done so as a I said), we need to also include journalists and pro-war politicians in government (and out) who rountinely make selective use of similar documents to rationalize their behavior.

As to your other point, if we define "national interests," as advancing American national defense, rather than policing the world, nobody has named a single example in the documents which undermines that goal. In fact, they advance that goal by, for example, showing that the public optimists on the Afghan quagamire are really pessimists in private who think Karzai and his government are a hopeless case.

Again, what is your altenrative to expose these and similar examples of government corruption, bungling, and hypocricy? Are you suggesting that "investigations" by Congress or the President will do the job?

15 posted on 12/17/2010 9:34:56 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: StormEye
Maybe Assange can break into computers used by the Democrat Party and splash what he finds all over the internet?

No, but he done more than ANY conservative to expose the Obama administration's complicity in the global warming scam. If he was really some sort of leftist shill, he would not have done that.

16 posted on 12/17/2010 9:36:39 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Zakeet

Does he even listen to himself? His wife is in jail, his son steals a government car for personal use. LOL, Conyers should go away into the night and never return


17 posted on 12/17/2010 9:40:38 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: Zakeet

Conyers is just what the first three letters of his name says: CON. And he’s a socialist and his wife is a jailed felon. So, WHO SHIVES A GIT WHAT HE THINKS.


18 posted on 12/17/2010 9:45:47 AM PST by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012)
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The reason I can never vote for a Democrat on the State & National level again.I do not agree with what Assange did but lets think about this. Back in 1986 Patrick “Leaky” Leahy leaked classified information that cause American operatives to be murdered. Later he leaked information on a Clandestine operation to overthrow Gadhafi. He also made a statement on National News that he had received a letter with enough anthrax to kill 100,000 people. This man is still a a US Senator from Vermont. He was forced to give up a position on the National Security Commission and that has been it. I would never sit on a jury and convict Assange for anything,especially if the US Justice Dept. was prosecuting.Conyers himself is up to his neck in corruption while a sitting US Senator. The audacity of politicians is amazing.
19 posted on 12/17/2010 9:54:33 AM PST by RocketRoland
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To: Captain Kirk
Agreed. The content of the leaked documents (that it was kept from We The People) is worse than their leaking by Assange, IMHO.

Posturing politicians in DC clamoring for Assange's head are either blind to the likely future misuse of such prosecutorial authority, or using Assange as an excuse for a power grab: prosecute Assange today, censor Free Speech tomorrow.

20 posted on 12/17/2010 10:12:37 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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