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To: PapaBear3625

I guess some social conservatives will have to choose between the Constitution and morality, not an easy one.

I know one who would say that “porn” leads to marxism. So does throwing out the right to free speech.

In the Citizens United case, a movie was considered free speech. I know what I would choose.


51 posted on 12/18/2010 8:47:02 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

“I guess some social conservatives will have to choose between the Constitution and morality, not an easy one.

I know one who would say that “porn” leads to marxism. So does throwing out the right to free speech.

In the Citizens United case, a movie was considered free speech. I know what I would choose.”

Actually, there is no conflict. The USSC has already ruled speech that is harmful may be prohibited; yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater. Porn is always harmful—to participants and viewers, and the viewers’ families and the participants’ families. I prefer the ability of local communities and states to forbid it—or permit it. This ought to be a states’ rights issue, not a federal issue. All such crime is at a state and local level.


118 posted on 12/18/2010 9:40:26 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (If you think a RINO will be with us . . . youÂ’re living on a unicorn ranch in fantasy land.)
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To: Raider Sam
I know one who would say that “porn” leads to marxism. So does throwing out the right to free speech.

Well lets see when porn (no scare quotes needed) was illegal throughout America were we more, or less, Maxist? Hmmm? The Citizens United case was about political speech, which is clearly what the founders were protecting with the first ammendment. It's amazing how limits on political speech are now accepted as normal and necessary while limits on porn is considered intollerable. People who think this way aren't really conservatives. They have accepted 90% of the liberal thought process and will find that they will be forced to surrender on the other 10% over time. Using your arguments you must support Don't Ask, Don't Tell's repeal. After all who are we to restrict the freedom of homosexuals to be who they are and openly espress their desires. Free Speech demands it. If I have to choose between the Constitution and morality it will be a very, very easy choice. No matter how brilliant the Constitution is merely a man-created document. It has been used and abused by generations, used to permit slavery, and then to abolish it. Used to forbid abortion, and then to protect it. Used to defeat racism, and then to promote it. It is not a reliable guide, it is merely a tool of imperfect humans valuable when used by skilled craftsmen with honorable intentions, destructive when used by amoral retards intent on glorifying their perversions and sickness.

160 posted on 12/18/2010 10:55:19 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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