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How to Fix Repeal of DADT: A new Commander in Chief (Simple as that)
12/17/2010 | Brices Crossroads

Posted on 12/19/2010 12:59:21 PM PST by Brices Crossroads

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To: Brices Crossroads

There is no link, only the poster’s claim. I read the vanity and then tried to search for Lieberman+ the section but found nothing. The poster’s name starts with an “a’ aprorios? - someone I don’t know. One poster on the thread is montag213 or something like that. I am still going through the threads.


21 posted on 12/19/2010 1:22:11 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Brices Crossroads
policy which prohibits homosexuals from serving the Armed Forces of the United States...

But, it doesn't do that. They can be in the Armed Forces, and are quite welcome just like anybody else. Its just that they can't be flagrant or conspicuous about it. Now they can.

22 posted on 12/19/2010 1:25:01 PM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for the ping!


23 posted on 12/19/2010 1:25:05 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Yaelle; Jim Robinson

Yaelle, I’ve tried to educate you but it won’t take. Below is a list of articles that show without a shadow of a doubt that even allowing homosexuals in the military under the guise of DADT is destructive, and allowing them free reign harms military readiness and morale beyond reapair.

You owe it to yourself and the truth to read the articles below. You’ve supported the homosexual agenda on FR for years and I am sick of it.

Ten Reasons to Oppose an “LGBT Law” or Policy for the Military
The Center for Military Readiness ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608259/posts

Senate Testimony: European Militaries Are Not Role Models for U.S.
The Center for Military Readiness ^ | 3/22/2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608228/posts

Rates of Homosexual Assault in the Military Are Disproportionately High
FRC ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608306/posts

In Support the 1993 Law Stating that Homosexuals are not Eligible to Serve in the Military
CMR ^ | July 23, 2008 | Elaine Donnelly
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608370/posts

“THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635458/posts

“MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635350/posts

“Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636350/posts


24 posted on 12/19/2010 1:27:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Brices Crossroads

“1) That the member has engaged in, attempted to engage in, or solicited another to engage in a homosexual act or acts unless there are further findings,...”

My guess is that if anyone complains about advances from a homosexual, that person will be charged with a “hate crime”since homosexuals now will rule the roost.


25 posted on 12/19/2010 1:27:56 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Kansas58

You agree that homosexuals in the military do no harm?????

Read the links I just posted. They are already causing harm even under DADT!


26 posted on 12/19/2010 1:28:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Read the earlier post, there is an ongoing thread for you to read.


27 posted on 12/19/2010 1:30:07 PM PST by dila813
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To: Brices Crossroads

Animals in the animal kingdom are smarter than humans. You don’t find sodomy among the male animals or females animals trying to have sex with another female.


28 posted on 12/19/2010 1:32:35 PM PST by YukonGreen
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To: dila813

I read all the posts.

I still don’t understand what you’re saying, just asking for clarification.


29 posted on 12/19/2010 1:34:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Brices Crossroads
You're really stretching here in assuming that a new commander-in-chief would have any interest in chaning the Federal regulations related to homosexuals serving in the U.S. military. The ongoing feminization of the U.S. military continued unabated -- and maybe even accelerated -- during the eight years of the Bush administration.

This trend will continue as long as the U.S. military is seen as little more than a tool for achieving political aims and engaging in stupid nation-building campaigns all over the world.

30 posted on 12/19/2010 1:36:54 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Brices Crossroads

Simple? Leftist actions don’t have simple solutions, and they tend to get more and more complicated, each and every year that they continue to exist! Look at the worsening of political correctness, affirmative action, activist judges,...! What a mess for everybody!


31 posted on 12/19/2010 1:37:41 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: onyx

Thanks, onyx. The only silver lining to the DADT repeal is that it looks like it may scuttle the START Treaty. Graham, McConnell and I believe Corker who were leaning in favor of it have come out against it based on the ram through of DADT repeal. Palin, as President, could reverse or modify any regulation of Obama concerning gays in the military, so the damage would be limited and short term.

But START would tie her hands on crucial national security issues governing missile defense and modernization of our nuclear arsenal, since a treaty has the force not just of legislation, but of the Constitution.


32 posted on 12/19/2010 1:47:39 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: YukonGreen

You’re wrong. I’ve had dogs all my life (all female). And some of the girl dogs try to hump other dogs - it’s also a sign of dominance. I’ve seen boy dogs hump boy dogs, too.


33 posted on 12/19/2010 1:52:53 PM PST by Ro_Thunder (Nov 2nd, 2010 - The adults get home, and are back in charge)
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To: Spok
"The military will likely want all service mambers who enlisted under the DADT policy to sign amendments to their enlistment contracts agreeing to the new policy"

Why, are you aware of any enlistment contracts that have conditional provisions for DADT? I'm sure not.

The Court has long held that there are no implicit conditions of enlistment found in DoD Form 4 - ENLISTMENT/REENLISTMENT DOCUMENT ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES, more commonly referred to as the Enlistment Contract. On said contract, there is a section labeled, Section B Agreements. Essentially, if a certain condition of enlistment it's not explicitly documented in that section, the government cannot be a breach of contract. In the US military, there are virtually no immutable terms of service, beyond what is expressly declared in that Enlistment Contract.

If you think that people will be able to sue in federal court to breach their enlistment contract because DADT was repealed, please call me - I have some prime real estate I'd like to sell you.

34 posted on 12/19/2010 1:54:23 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Brices Crossroads

Stopped reading at the first sentence since it’s a lie. NOTHING prevents homosexual’s from serving. They are serving.

So go blow your propaganda elsewhere, eh?

‘I know many of us are demoralized over Congress’ decision yesterday to repeal the so-called “Don’t Ask, Don’t tell” policy which prohibits homosexuals from serving the Armed Forces of the United States. ‘

Complete lie.


35 posted on 12/19/2010 1:56:44 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: little jeremiah

“...open faggots in the military will be hell.”

Indeed it will. Unfortunately, this bell cannot be un-rung. They’re here to stay.

AMERICA.........RIP.


36 posted on 12/19/2010 1:58:00 PM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

This is correct.

Before the 1994 statute, the military policy on gays was just like every other military personnel policy — a matter of regulations written by the military departments with DOD setting the standards.

Without a statute, the SECDEF still has the authority to establish and enforce military personnel policies, including accession and retention standards.

So, yes, a new Commander in Chief is necessary. And a new SECDEF in the interim, too. It’s inexplicable that Robert Gates seems to have had no higher priority than to get homosexuals into the military during his tenure.

Good riddance, Mr. Gates. I have a feeling we’ll be finding out soon what you’re real agenda has been.


37 posted on 12/19/2010 1:58:56 PM PST by fightinJAG (Americans: the only people in the world protesting AGAINST government "benefits.")
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To: Brices Crossroads

BTW, what is the net effect of repealing DADT? What can a homosexual in the military do that he/she can’t do now, save for coming out of the closet? How will their life in the military change?


38 posted on 12/19/2010 1:58:56 PM PST by umgud
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To: Freddd

“Stopped reading at the first sentence”

It is clear from the entire post that I meant “open homosexuals” but since you did not read it you didn’t get the point. You just jumped to a conclusion and labeled me a propagandist and a liar, both of which are slanders.

I didn’t ping you. Don’t post to me again.


39 posted on 12/19/2010 2:07:02 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads
Here's the thread about Lieberman..

I skipped past it three times because I had forgotten the poster titled it "Dream Act - A lesson for us".

40 posted on 12/19/2010 2:08:56 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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