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THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT
AIPNews.com ^ | Dec. 1, 2010 | Gordon James Klingenschmitt

Posted on 11/30/2010 8:53:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance

Please forward widely to reporters and bloggers you know!

[Editor's note: Remember, these overwhelming numbers against the repeal of DADT were arrived at in spite of the fact that the Obama Administration survey as submitted to service members was incredibly biased and the questions asked were heavily skewed in an attempt to support the Left's radical homosexual agenda.]

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THE REAL PENTAGON POLL:  91% REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS.  85% OF COMBAT MARINES DISTRUST, 71% WON’T SHARE SHOWERS, 24% WON’T RE-ENLIST.

 

HALF MILLION TROOPS, ONE IN FOUR, WOULD LEAVE THE MILITARY  


Former Navy Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt just read the full Pentagon report on repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and here's his analysis:

"Don't believe the phony liberal media reports that 70% of troops support open homosexual service, because that statistic included 'mixed' feelings.  A closer reading of the fine print in the newly released Pentagon survey shows our troops answered as follows:

Q45.    If you had a leader whom you believed was gay or lesbian…9% positive, 91% negative or mixed impact on unit's performance.

Q68c.   85% of Marine Combat Arms, 75% of Army Combat Arms, 64% overall say Negative, Very Negative, or Mixed impact on unit trust if DADT is repealed. 

Q90.     29% would take no action if assigned open showers with homosexuals.  71% would shower at other times, complain to leadership or chaplains, don't know or do "something else" [including violence].

Q81.     24% will leave the military or think about leaving sooner than planned.  (One half million troops will QUIT the service early, destroying our national security.) 

Q80.     6% will positively recommend service to others after repeal.  94% feel negative, mixed, no effect, or don't know about recommending military service to others.  (Destroying recruiting efforts.) 

Q66.     If open homosexuality impacts combat performance, is the impact...9% positive, 91% negative or mixed impact. 

Q71.     11% feel positive or very positive about permitting open homosexuality in field environment or out at sea.  60% negative or mixed.  19% no effect. 

Q73.     5% say repeal would positively boost morale.  41% say negative or mixed impact morale.  Rest no effect or don't know.

In summary, the real statistics prove our nation faces a NATIONAL SECURITY DISASTER if Don't Ask, Don’t Tell is repealed, and open homosexual aggression is forced upon our troops against their will.” 



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: dadt; fdrq; homosexualagenda; nationalsecurityfail; obama
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1 posted on 11/30/2010 8:53:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: wagglebee; Gelato; Taxman; Ladycalif; chicagolady; Delphinium; joanie-f

The Obama faction is pushing one of the most blatant BIG LIE campaigns ever seen to push open homosexuality in the military.

Is it going to work?

I guess we’ll see, won’t we.


2 posted on 11/30/2010 8:56:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: Steve Schulin

Here’s the release we were talking about earlier.


3 posted on 11/30/2010 9:00:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


4 posted on 11/30/2010 9:00:20 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

It’s what they want, a screwed up radicalized military.


5 posted on 11/30/2010 9:01:20 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Williams

You betcha.


6 posted on 11/30/2010 9:01:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

This is much closer to what I expected. 70% approval didn’t sound right at all.


7 posted on 11/30/2010 9:02:41 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Nachum

I say we send a pink slip to every single Senator who refuses to use every single tool at their disposal to block this abomination.


8 posted on 11/30/2010 9:02:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

So much for the “positive responses” as suggested by Secretary of Defense Gates on all the MSM stations today...
Now we’ll see if the lame duck Congress rejects “don’t ask, don’t tell.” If they do, it will be hell to pay, especially during war time.


9 posted on 11/30/2010 9:03:50 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I just saw Gates on the news, touting the “fact” that “two-thirds of military personnel have no issue with repealing DADT” (or words to that effect).

I knew it was a lie when I heard him spew it.

Naturally, the newscasters didn’t blink, nor did they question what he said.


10 posted on 11/30/2010 9:05:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EternalVigilance; 185JHP; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Agitate; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; Antoninus; ...
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And this is just using the junk questionnaire! How about if a real honest survey were done, the results would be even more damning.

11 posted on 11/30/2010 9:05:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: vox_freedom; Sola Veritas
The truth about how this result was arrived at.

From another FR thread earlier today, a great post by Sola Veritas:

“One can only imagine how the questions were worded.”

It was poorly worded. As a reservist, I was randomly picked to answer it, as was my wife. It was worded so poorly that one could not clearly articulate their opposition to the proposed policy change.

It wasn’t exactly a “push poll”, but it seemed like one when I took the survey. I was thoroughly disgusted that it was not possible to say what I trully thought because of the wording of questions. About the only way you could show disdain for the proposal was to say you would leave military service or not recommend it to another if homosexuals could serve openly. You could indicate it would hurt unit cohesion, but it was very hard to do so by the wording.

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50 posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:14:41 PM by Sola Veritas

 

12 posted on 11/30/2010 9:07:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: Windflier
This is what is known as THE BIG LIE technique.

Frankly, I've never seen such a blatant example.

The Big Lie (German: Große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, for a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

13 posted on 11/30/2010 9:12:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

How about worrying about getting our troops body armor, instead of swishing around this way and that, prancing from stool to stool, all in a tizzy about which way to turn on this stupid partisan bullsh!t?

Thanks EternalVigilance.


14 posted on 11/30/2010 9:16:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: EternalVigilance
This is what is known as THE BIG LIE technique. Frankly, I've never seen such a blatant example.

Absolutely. We have to send this out to our congress critters and anyone we know in the alternative media right away.

They can't be allowed to get away with this. It'll destroy our military.

15 posted on 11/30/2010 9:20:06 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Shepperd Smith was just giddy when he announced the blatantly skewed poll results earlier today. I thought to myself then this nonsense will be exposed as a steaming pile o’ $H!T! Didn’t take long.


16 posted on 11/30/2010 9:21:05 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Windflier

It most certainly will.

This should fill the American people with the kind of righteous anger that will make Senators fear for their political lives.


17 posted on 11/30/2010 9:22:16 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

Absolutely.


18 posted on 11/30/2010 9:23:42 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: EternalVigilance

And secretary Gates is a liar.


19 posted on 11/30/2010 9:23:44 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: vox_freedom
And secretary Gates is a liar.

Yes, he most certainly is. Of the worst sort.

20 posted on 11/30/2010 9:25:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: vox_freedom
“And secretary Gates is a liar.”

Gaytes is a liar, and a bad one at that.

21 posted on 11/30/2010 9:26:22 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: EternalVigilance

Just what we need. Institution wise, this would gut the military. We’d be back to 2000-if not 1980.


22 posted on 11/30/2010 9:27:03 PM PST by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: 444Flyer
MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'
23 posted on 11/30/2010 9:27:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance
This should fill the American people with the kind of righteous anger that will make Senators fear for their political lives.

There's no way I can see that the Obama admin can get away with this lie. Hundreds of thousands of military folks are going to start chattering about this to the folks back home, who are going to start chattering about it all over the internet.

The entire right blogosphere is going to light up at this outrage and begin posting blistering tirades within hours.

The talk shows will go nuts with this tomorrow, and for days and weeks to come. This will not rest quietly.

Congress critters had better get prepared for another communications system melt-down. There's incoming fire on the way.

24 posted on 11/30/2010 9:29:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Yep. And here we sit on our @$$es complaining and arguing. I’m losing hope guys. They have us. Short of saying what would have my post pulled and possibly getting banned from FR, there’s not much else to do. Look, the food crap just went through, no raises for the military but the freaking Congress will probably get theirs, increasing medical payments for military, Birthers still being bashed and the latest case refused by the Supremes, GOPers still voting with the Rats, I can’t believe we are where we are.

sigh


25 posted on 11/30/2010 9:30:16 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: Windflier

Good. I hope it’s the biggest meltdown they’ve ever seen.


26 posted on 11/30/2010 9:32:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

The thing about this report is the “combat units” the guys actually doing the fighting and engaging the enemy in close quarters combat are against it. We are going to shove this policy down the throats of the guys bearing the brunt of fighting. This will destroy the fabric of America’s infantryman, good luck with retention. Better start the draft.


27 posted on 11/30/2010 9:35:10 PM PST by Stayfrosty
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To: little jeremiah

Will this confirms my suspicions that the Obama Pentagon spun their poll numbers.


28 posted on 11/30/2010 9:36:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Will = Well


29 posted on 11/30/2010 9:39:11 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: EternalVigilance

I would think this would be better and more illustrative of the report if the actual results were shown, as opposed to lumping answers together.


30 posted on 11/30/2010 9:41:53 PM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hideous treason and deceptiveness, imho.


31 posted on 11/30/2010 9:43:57 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: EternalVigilance

What a slippery slope it has been. We go from homosexuality being an unnatural perversion and a crime, in fact a sin, to it being a DADT unmentionable, to being tolerable but unpopular, to being “genetic”,to being a protected class for discrimination purposes, to being acceptable, then finally to being promoted as a natural and equal alternative.

God destroyed cities for this.


32 posted on 11/30/2010 9:46:23 PM PST by One Name
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To: EternalVigilance

My guess is the Pentagon Brass - political generals who want to keep their jobs, would say anything the Obama Administration directs them to say about anything.

If they are as bright as that genius General Jack Keane that FOX interviewed today, NOTHING would surprise me.

The LAST thing they would do is support the opinions of real soldiers and real officers in the field. THAT is NOT how they got there.


33 posted on 11/30/2010 9:47:52 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: ZULU

God help those who are serving under these liars.


34 posted on 11/30/2010 9:48:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance
Good soldiers leave, won't re-up, and potentially good soldiers won't join. Well, that will just "force" Obama to the "unprecedented" move of lowering enlistment standards, and encourage the many unemployed Obamulans to join. The US military will start to look like the TSA, with guns.

Domestic security force anyone?

35 posted on 11/30/2010 9:50:11 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Did you hear General Keane’s interview? Shepherd Smith (given - he’s a lib) asked this jerk about recent polls that showed that most Afghans in two Southern provinces didn’t know WHY we are there, and didn’t know anything about 9-11 and a significant number of them thought we were there to take away their religion, and this GENIUS responded “They don’t have to know........ most Americans don’t know things in the their own history...”

HUH???? What does the LAST part of that statement have to do with the price of apples??

What a MEATHEAD!!!

I thought we were not fighting a non-conventional war in Afghanistan in the sense that our presence there was in part political to win over the population and nation-build
(not that I agree with those roles - I DON’T), IF THAT is the case, one would think that what they know about exactly WHAT we are doing in their country is essential.

My guess is Keane would agree with Obama about closet queens being allowed to profane the Marine Corps.


36 posted on 11/30/2010 10:00:15 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: EternalVigilance

The other poll bias is that people who are content with the way things are tend not to care or respond.

The squeaky wheel activist liberal gay PFC is more likely to respond to the survey.


37 posted on 11/30/2010 10:01:08 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Beware of the Socialist Government-Academia Grant Junkie-Rich "non-profit"-Liberal Media Complex)
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To: ZULU

I’m thinking that to be an Obama general an IQ below 70 is required.


38 posted on 11/30/2010 10:02:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Yep. No matter how you cut it, this whole thing is the biggest lying propaganda offensive ever foisted on the American people.


39 posted on 11/30/2010 10:03:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

I would like to see a few each year quit and run for office. We have to displace the corrupt placeholders we have in office right now. We need to find more Allen Wests and start filling the place with them.


40 posted on 11/30/2010 10:06:18 PM PST by marron
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To: EternalVigilance

BUMP!


41 posted on 11/30/2010 10:10:21 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: EternalVigilance
It wouldn't be the first time the Pentagon has tried to push an agenda, would it? Remember the "Jessica Lynch as Rambo" story? That was tailor-made to push the women in combat agenda. The only problem was...it was bulls**t. She was unconscious and near death in a crashed Humvee while PFC Patrick Miller was doing the things she was credited with.

It makes me sick what those a**hole "politicians in uniform" at the Pentagon do, at the expense of our troops and our national security.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

42 posted on 11/30/2010 10:47:54 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: EternalVigilance; All

I tried to go to the Defense Department and click on the link for the primary report and then nothing on my computer worked. Everything locked up. I couldn’t even get the task manager to work to close the Internet. Finally I had to simply crash the computer and restart.

Why are the Chinese mad at me?

Does anyone have a link to the text of the original questions and the actual responses? Google and Yahoo simply list the top 300 newspapers and blogs parroting the same story without a thought in their pretty little heads. I would like a real source for real facts if one is available and won’t eat my computer.

Thanks


43 posted on 11/30/2010 10:50:41 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: One Name
"God destroyed cities for this."

Yes, He did. Get the feeling we're up next?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

44 posted on 11/30/2010 10:51:28 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: IrishCatholic

Ask the author of this piece. I’m sure he can point you to it:

chaplaingate@yahoo.com


45 posted on 11/30/2010 11:01:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: Salvavida
You probably wouldn't find 70% "approval" of gays in any demographic outside of San Francisco.

This makes me angry that the MSM is knowingly pushing these bogus stats.

46 posted on 11/30/2010 11:22:36 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: PghBaldy; All

Here is an article with more details about the recommendations for implementation. There are also some statistics, although not about the poll itself.

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/how-the-pentagon-would-implement-dont-ask-dont-tell-repeal/19738807


47 posted on 11/30/2010 11:22:42 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: vox_freedom

God. That’s the same type of crap we get from DOD on our Tricare issues. DOD lies all the time. You should see the responses they send to Congress in response to a congressional inquiry.


48 posted on 11/30/2010 11:22:59 PM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
And here we sit on our @$$es complaining and arguing.

Like any self respecting tyrants, they will continue to push until something breaks. I thought the drubbing the Dimtards received at the polls less than a month ago might be at least a speed bump to these treasonous bastards and bastardettes. But no. They are pushing even harder against the manifest will of the people. Their days are numbered and I think they know it so the blatant treason is an act of desperation. Their hope is they can "transform" the system enough so that it will take a conservative sweep in the next election to undo the carnage.

I’m losing hope guys.

If we can survive two more years; not long at all in the larger scheme of things, we will prevail. God willing.

49 posted on 11/30/2010 11:29:26 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: EternalVigilance

It would seriously weaken the war-fighting capability of the United States; but, then, clearly that’s Obama’s plan.


50 posted on 11/30/2010 11:52:53 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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