Skip to comments.Obama Returns to End-of-Life Plan That Caused Stir (Here's the Death Panels we were warned about)
Posted on 12/26/2010 6:57:59 AM PST by tobyhill
When a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning touched off a political storm over death panels, Democrats dropped it from legislation to overhaul the health care system. But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.
Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.
Congressional supporters of the new policy, though pleased, have kept quiet. They fear provoking another furor like the one in 2009 when Republicans seized on the idea of end-of-life counseling to argue that the Democrats bill would allow the government to cut off care for the critically ill.
The final version of the health care legislation, signed into law by President Obama in March, authorized Medicare coverage of yearly physical examinations, or wellness visits. The new rule says Medicare will cover voluntary advance care planning, to discuss end-of-life treatment, as part of the annual visit.
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And where are all the folks who said Palin was dumb?
Isn’t there something a wee bit unethical, if you can’t get something through Congress, to do the same thing by fiat? “Will of the people” and all that?
Sounds like something we can pull the plug on when the new Congress convenes...
Estate Taxes + Death Panels = Will people be denied care so that the gov’t can get their hands on people’s money?
To 0bama, the needs of the many ALWAYS take precedent over the needs of the few...
unless those needs of the few are HIS own or his Immediate Family’s.
Then it is most likely some form of “Social Injustice” and “you all can go F yourself”!!
Yeah, it’s more than a wee bit unethical, but they’re Democrats. They don’t care about ethics.
They’ll establish a starting point by using most extreme of cases. That way they’ll get as many people as possible to agree it’s probably best to let the people pass away. Then they’ll apply pressure relentlessly to inch that line forward. Evil never rests.
This is plainly and simply dictatorship and it must be stopped.
Oooh, biiiiiiiig mistake Obama, you’ll see. Old people vote.
When some of us “old folks” start taking people with us when they deny benefits they will change their tone!Got to go after the a$$holes who voted yes for this legislative POS!
Its a good thing the lame (duck) congress is gone or he would get this too.
One of many.
Ah yes... acting with “consent of the governed.”
Death Panels? Rationed Care? Never Again? Welcome to the Obama, Pelosi, Reid et al. DeathCare Holocaust Plan designed to reduce social security costs. Next, will we see boxcars and camps and Mengele? How about your new politically-correct, non-English speaking Government Physician from a Third World Country? Anyone approaching 65 years old would be well advised to call (202) 225-3121 and ask to speak to their elected political hack by name. Ask them if they and their family will be participating in the Liberal DemocRAT Holocaust DeathCare plan? Of course, don’t expect to to be allowed to speak to anyone other than a young, arrogant staffer who doesn’t even know what’s going on in the world. Constituent comments truly aren’t wanted only their votes and donations prior to an election.
November 2012 can’t get here soon enough to fine tune the hypocrites that we put in office in 2010. We must clean more of the DC sewer. Our continued cleaning project must start on January 1, 2011 and continue through 2016 at the least.
Sounds like Caligula or Nero when the Imperial Roman treasury ran out of gold. Presidential candidate McCain did say that we had nothing to fear from an Obama presidency./spit
Calling this “death panels” is bait and switch. It’s not the top-down rationing that even Krugman was referring to when he stepped in it and endorsed Sarah Palin’s conceptualization of it last month. Limiting access to drugs and procedures by exclusion is the idea behind death panels as I have understood it,and it is a far greater threat.
I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car.
Twice, once in Miami, and once in New York.
However, they'll still vote democrat when they're dead, won't they?
I hope Congress is taking this seriously. We are and if we go; they do too.
Anybody here surprised? Dogs bark. Lions roar. Democrats hate themselves and love death.
I’ll bet this sounded a whole lot better to them when they had the youth vote. However, I’m sure that there are some in the administration who consider this a way to get the youth vote. They are looking for the too stupid to get old crowd.
The origin of the death tax was ancient Rome. Nero needed a way to find rebuilding Rome so he levied a death tax. Then nobles across the empire started to die.
For a more recent example, Donald Scott in california had land the government coveted. They were sure that he was growing dope on that prime real estate. So prime that they had the property appraised before they raided the place. He was shot dead and his widow had to sell to the .gov to settle the estate.
Luckily, Dr Zeke was spit-shining his penny loafers
when the subject of "O/Care death" panels surfaced.
WOW!! Does Pinch know this article appeared in his beloved democrat party playbook?
Abolish and replace. 1776 is a right and responsibility.
FL recently passed a law that requires legislative approval of all proposed state agency rule and regs that could cost society more than $1 million over five years. That's right, $1 million.
And where are all the folks who said Palin was dumb?”
Boy, Oh Boy-——Nothing like handing the number 1 candidate for the Oval Office in 2012 a ready-made slate of issues!!!
The next 2 years are going to be very interesting-—and I think that Sarah is going to wipe the floor with NObama & all his minions on a very regular basis.
Better stock up on more popcorn, salt, & buttter.
Don’t forget the town hall demographics...those people won’t forget, they’re scared.
you said it, sister.
You hit the nail on the head, Girlfriend!
Governor Palin continues to play 3D chess while everyone else plays checkers. She IS the brightest bulb in the package.
Where are we going and why are we in this hand basket? LOL
Thanks for bringing it up.
Ethnic leaders are always talking about getting rid of the old white folks. Obama thinks he has a way.
Heard this morning that some POS democrat from Oregon emailed the NYT asking them not to run this story to keep it secret from the public. His rationale was that if it remains hidden the approval and implementation would be successful. Nazi Socialist Democrat bastards.
FUBO & FAD
Yup. Head that on Fox today. Bastards.
Thank you for the reminder. Palin’s original warning was about government panels rationing health care based upon one’s value to society. This remains the big threat to all of us, especially elders.
This debate was never about end of life counseling. The liberal media is trying to deflect debate away from the rationing boards, and unfortunately, a lot of people are falling for it.
Merry Christmas Red.
Yeah, I read this earlier.
It’s going to get lots worse as we go along cause he is going to now try to rule decree and gub mint grabs.
According to FOX, the WH is spinning like mad to control this story, claiming that the rule was first conceived during the Bush admin.
I dont know its origins, but if the O administration embraces it, they own it.
I agree with your interpretation, but I’ve taken a real roasting about it (tough not this time).
Yep, we’re here.
Government by regulation = statism.
Call it anything you want - fascism, totalitatianism, communism, socialism, corporatism, soft tyranny. It looks to me and my American University political science degree training that the United States is in the process of creating a new style of distatorship, one in which we’ll still retain a frosting of individual rights and the illusion of limited government, but will actually create a bureaucratic state centered in Washington which will seek to regulate all aspects of our lives.
Maybe that’s why we’re having such a hard time coming up with a name - this is a brand-new thing. And how American is that? We’re coming up with a whole new kind of tryanny, in the same way that we formerly came up with new kinds of transportation, housing, economics, and artistic expression.
To me, this feels like the inverse of China, where a frankly totalitarian regime has loosened restrictions just enough to create economic growth. It seems as if Obama is taking a free market, limited government regime and tightening it just enough to restrict economic growth to only those places that the government allows. Perhaps we’ll meet in the middle and become even better friends.
The scariest part for me is the thought that the Roman republic similarly lost its republican traditions slowly over time, and even when it installed a permanent dictator, still gave lip service to the idea of the republic. Centuries afterwards, the provinces still conducted themselves on republican values, while Rome itself was tryanny. Is this our future - a bureaucratic elite in Washington cranking out regulation after regulation, while here in Alaska we still go through the charade of state soveriegnty and elect our little mayors and state legislature?
Or are we already well past that point right now?
God help us.
It’s all about the utility factor - pre born infants and aging seniors are useless in the materialist economy these Marxocrat Darwinians believe in.
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