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Juries are giving pot defendants a pass
LA Times ^ | 12-24-10 | Kim Murphy, Los Angeles Times

Posted on 12/26/2010 9:06:00 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi

Reporting from Seattle — It seemed a straightforward case: A man with a string of convictions and a reputation as a drug dealer was going on trial in Montana for distributing a small amount of marijuana found in his home — if only the court could find jurors willing to send someone to jail for selling a few marijuana buds.

The problem began during jury selection last week in Missoula, when a potential juror said she would have a "real problem" convicting someone for selling such a small amount. But she would follow the law if she had to, she said.

A woman behind her was adamant. "I can't do it," she said, prompting Judge Robert L. Deschamps III to excuse her. Another juror raised a hand, the judge recalled, "and said, 'I was convicted of marijuana possession a few years ago, and it ruined my life.' " Excused.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jury; nullification; our; right
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1 posted on 12/26/2010 9:06:02 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: cougar_mccxxi

Jury nullification; where the vote of the people DOES mean something.

I found a site dedicated to the subject and its worth checking out.

http://fija.org/


2 posted on 12/26/2010 9:08:10 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: cougar_mccxxi

Jury service. Ugh. I know how necessary it is, but it seems once you´ve served here in LA you´re called again and again, year after year. There must be someone else out there.


3 posted on 12/26/2010 9:10:20 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Its worth the effort, trust me. Here’s another example...

http://www.prorev.com/juries.htm


4 posted on 12/26/2010 9:13:14 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: cougar_mccxxi
Juries are supposed to behave this way whether I personally agree with the verdicts or not. Now if only jury nullification principles were brought into play for far more important issues.

ALEXANDER HAMILTON (1804): Jurors should acquit even against the judge's instruction...."if exercising their judgement with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction that the charge of the court is wrong."
5 posted on 12/26/2010 9:18:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Thank you. Nice quotation.


6 posted on 12/26/2010 9:20:56 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: cougar_mccxxi
Oh so now jury nullification is a problem?

I like the rationale of the one woman who refused to convict on the grounds of how life-ruining a drug possession conviction can be. This is true freedom.

7 posted on 12/26/2010 9:23:52 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: cougar_mccxxi

The intent of a judge was to be little more than a moderator between prosecution and defense. The jury was supposed to pass judgement in criminal cases.

In 1895 the supreme court ruled that jurors need not be informed of their rights and its been all downhill from there.


8 posted on 12/26/2010 9:24:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cougar_mccxxi

Most of the American people know full well how stupid the Reefer Madness nonsense is and how nonsensical it is to put people in jail for pot possession. I see decriminalization happening within the next ten years for sure.


9 posted on 12/26/2010 9:25:05 AM PST by jpl (Our forebears really gave their lives so we could be groped by bureaucratic retards at the airport?)
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Fully informed jurors are the the whopping secret that the statist crooks don't want to get out.

The only thing better than a fully informed juror, is one who knows EXACTLY what to say to the court.

10 posted on 12/26/2010 9:25:50 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: cougar_mccxxi

What’s a little organized crime among friends? It’s not as if the pushers ruin other peoples’ lives and hand out free samples to kids to get them hooked after all...

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
-John Adams


11 posted on 12/26/2010 9:28:33 AM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: Navy Patriot

The last few times I was called the judges made it crystal clear that they would NOT TOLERATE any of the jury nullification nonsense in THEIR courts.


12 posted on 12/26/2010 9:30:31 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 703 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

The judges may not like it, but I don’t see that they have a choice.


13 posted on 12/26/2010 9:32:57 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: jpl

Agreed. But even more importantly jury nullification is our best and sometimes only defense against unjust laws and oppressive government if we can all remember to demand a jury trial if we are accused and remember our rights as jurors.

Remember, you can ask for a jury trial for something as “trivial” as a seat belt infraction;

“In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.”-Amendment 5, US Constitution, Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.


14 posted on 12/26/2010 9:33:10 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: cougar_mccxxi

so they will just keep looking until they find a group of jurors that is guaranteed to find the defendent guilty? what a COS. I would lie.


15 posted on 12/26/2010 9:35:06 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: MetaThought

I agree with jury nullification 1000 percent in cases like this.


16 posted on 12/26/2010 9:35:32 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: RC one

Exactly. Get on the jury; it only takes one vote to set an innocent person free.


17 posted on 12/26/2010 9:36:53 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: LastNorwegian

So, the state alleges that this is a big-time bad-assed major drug dealer.

All they could find of his massive inventory was 1/16 of an ounce of marijuana.

What’s the threshold for the rest of us? Nanograms? Picograms? A single TCH molecule picked up by passing downwind of a doper on a crowded street?

This is malicious prosecution, nothing more, nothing less. The State has no real case.


18 posted on 12/26/2010 9:37:15 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 703 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: cougar_mccxxi

“when a potential juror said she would have a “real problem” convicting someone for selling such a small amount.”

They have *no right* to know your opinion in advance. Say whatever it takes to get on a jury, then do what you as a citizen decides is best.


19 posted on 12/26/2010 9:38:55 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: null and void
judges made it crystal clear that they would NOT TOLERATE any of the jury nullification nonsense in THEIR courts

Poor babies, They and their courts are already the laughingstock of the population. This'll work well for 'em.

20 posted on 12/26/2010 9:39:31 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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