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Re-evaluating 'free trade' with China (Schlafly)
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 28 2010 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/28/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

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To: Cringing Negativism Network
One word: "Tariffs" Import tariffs, are long, long overdue. America needs to start looking out for America. First.

Two words: Smoot–Hawley.

61 posted on 12/28/2010 9:13:40 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: dennisw
Bug out to Panama first, comment on America later.

You need to get out of the house more. I understand that, to you, it's a scary world out there. There's lots of furriners you might have to interact with. Scary things for a scared guy to deal with.

62 posted on 12/28/2010 9:19:59 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: meadsjn

Actually, Schlafly spoke about this in the 1990s too. IT is “conservatives” who forgot Chinagate when Bush was selected as the nominee.


63 posted on 12/28/2010 10:38:10 AM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The Federal Reserve doesn't use our tax dollars.

No, but they print our tax dollars, and lend them to us, interest bearing. In reality since every dollar printed is a promissory not to the Fed, we could never have enough money in print to repay the debt.

64 posted on 12/28/2010 12:27:57 PM PST by itsahoot (We the people, allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: itsahoot
and lend them to us, interest bearing

It's true, if you borrow money, you get charged interest.

In reality since every dollar printed is a promissory note to the Fed,

Huh? I don't owe my FRNs to the Fed.

we could never have enough money in print to repay the debt.

We who? Be more specific. What debt? Be more specific.

65 posted on 12/28/2010 12:37:05 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Realism
I see, you like to play possum.

I'm here. If you think I'm playing possum, prove it.

66 posted on 12/28/2010 5:14:46 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mase

Can you imagine? A foray out of the trailer park, just to get all white-knuckled when passing the ethnic foods section of the grocery store.


67 posted on 12/28/2010 5:21:23 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: expat_panama
The debt will be paid for one way or the other...I'm thinking it won't be pretty regardless of tax dollars or default.

Would you prefer I supply pretty lil graphics and charts for you or are you mature enough to do the research on your own?

Hey, here's a thought, lets ask your buddy Toddster, he’z an expert economist with all those fancy dancy charts that proved so freakin off base.....you know, the ones saying the economy was just peachy right before she crashed.

I dunno, just sayin.

68 posted on 12/28/2010 5:50:02 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; Toddsterpatriot
Schafly has been warning about Free Trade for years

I don't care.  I still think she's still hot.

69 posted on 12/28/2010 6:03:06 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: servantboy777; Toddsterpatriot

I agree, let’s ask. Kinda’ funny how yesterday people were whining about a Walter Williams column that was “too simple.” Now they’re whining that things are “too complicated.”


70 posted on 12/29/2010 6:07:43 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: servantboy777
Hey, here's a thought, lets ask your buddy Toddster

What would you like to know?

with all those fancy dancy charts that proved so freakin off base

My factual charts were off base? What does that mean? Were my charts full of errors? Maybe you have an example we could discuss?

Or are you imagining things? I dunno, just askin'.

71 posted on 12/29/2010 6:20:40 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I remember people complaining about us posting charts and graphs and “stuff,” shortly before they started complaining that our posts are short on specifics.


72 posted on 12/29/2010 6:56:51 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I must have posted too many facts because years later, some Freepers complain I had the facts wrong. They couldn’t prove it when I posted them and they can’t find the supposed errors now, but they just know I was wrong.


73 posted on 12/29/2010 7:04:52 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
We who? Be more specific. What debt? Be more specific.

Probably can't help you. The treasury issues bonds that are interest bearing, then the Fed prints money out of air, to buy those bonds, but when we buy those bonds back we have to pay interest. We sell phony bonds to the Fed who prints Phony money to buy them, circular money flow.

74 posted on 12/29/2010 2:11:27 PM PST by itsahoot (We the people, allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: itsahoot
Probably can't help you.

You made a claim and now you can't help me with specifics? LOL!

The treasury issues bonds that are interest bearing

Usually.

then the Fed prints money out of air, to buy those bonds

Some of them.

but when we buy those bonds back we have to pay interest

We don't buy them back, they mature.

We sell phony bonds to the Fed who prints Phony money to buy them, circular money flow.

So your silly claim was about Treasury debt?

75 posted on 12/29/2010 3:55:03 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: itsahoot
Toddsterpatriot:   "The Federal Reserve doesn't use our tax dollars."
itsahoot:   "No, but they print our tax dollars..."

Most of what you said made sense to me and I agree; please help me on what you're saying here.  So the fed 'prints' money and we use it to pay taxes.  Is that what your post is concerned with and what you're saying is wrong or is there something else you're looking at?

76 posted on 12/30/2010 3:55:43 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Toddsterpatriot

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77 posted on 12/30/2010 6:40:38 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Facts make you tired?


78 posted on 12/30/2010 6:46:05 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

>>Facts make you tired?<<

Nope, just argumentative know it all faux experts.


79 posted on 12/30/2010 7:02:25 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Said as you run away. After you avoid proving your claim. Typical.


80 posted on 12/30/2010 7:03:54 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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