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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; mlizzy

>> praying to mother mary is out right paganism.

Virgin Mary, the mother of God, Christ our Lord, Jesus? That “mother mary” in lowercase?

It is a fallacy to claim Catholicism is a valid form of Christianity while stating prayer to Mary is paganism. Given the weight of your complaint concerning paganism, it would seem that you don’t really believe Catholicism is a valid form of Christianity.


188 posted on 12/30/2010 9:47:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception was announced or discovered by Rome in 1852. The dogma of the Assumption in 1951. Nobody asked me about it or brought it to my attention until now.
I think the problem most non-Catholics have with these strained expressions of faith, or attempts to explain the unexplainable—that Catholics insist we accept as fact—is that Matthew informs us (13:55-57) that Mary had, besides Jesus, four sons and some daughters as well.
The `Assumption’ was arrived at to explain the logical dilemma, if the wages of sin are death, then Mary could not have really died because that would suggest that She was only mortal and not completely without sin, like Jesus Christ.
So we’re asked to accept that a mother of several children had a one-way birth canal and upon her death was levitated heavenward to avoid the unpleasantness of something that all mortals must do eventually—draw their last breath.

But (extensive throat-clearing) now we’re talking about hi-jacking and Catholicism and “Jumpin’ Jim” Jindal, and how much better he would be on the issue of all things sexual than **Sarah Palin,** the actual subject of this thread.
And our next president.


194 posted on 12/30/2010 10:02:30 PM PST by tumblindice (Holy Mary, full of grace...help me win this stock car race)
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