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Wakefield's paper linking MMR vaccine and autism a fraud
LA Times ^ | January 5, 2011 | By Thomas H. Maugh II, Los Angeles Times

Posted on 01/05/2011 8:25:06 PM PST by Melissa 24

Dr. Andrew Wakefield's 1998 report in the journal Lancet purporting to show a link between autism and the vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella "was based not on bad science but on a deliberate fraud," says Dr. Fiona Godlee, editor in chief of BMJ, formerly the British Medical Journal, in an editorial published Tuesday. The editorial accompanies the first of three reports by British investigative journalist Brian Deer that document how Wakefield manipulated data in his attempts to prove something that he "knew" before he started his research. Most of the information in the reports has been published previously, but the recent publication of the General Medical Council's 6-million-word transcript of the hearing in which Wakefield's license to practice medicine in Britain was revoked allowed the editors of BMJ to peer-review Deer's reports and confirm the extensive falsifications in the original Lancet paper.

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"The sad thing is, his work has influenced a lot of people," said Dr. Peter Hotez of the Sabin Vaccine Institute in New York City. "If you do a Google search of vaccines, so much of what you see are anti-vaccine sentiments using Wakefield's work as a basis for it, and as a result, children are having vaccines withheld. It's tragic."

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To: count-your-change

Thanks, I found the working link
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

Why did USCIS (immigration) let this disgraced fraud in USA????? He’s likely much more dangerous than any serial killer we have seen so far.


81 posted on 01/06/2011 10:00:46 AM PST by mewykwistmas
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To: Black Agnes

“the manufacturer itself says ‘not tested or approved in pregnant women’.”

Tests probably take years, and the vaccine changes yearly.


82 posted on 01/06/2011 10:05:18 AM PST by mewykwistmas
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To: count-your-change

I am not discounting that the polio vaccination did much to eradicate the disease. That does not mean it’s the only thing that currently keeps the disease at bay. It is the hot water, the soap, and better hygiene of today’s world.

I think in some ways you could compare the vaccination industry to unions, at one point in time, they were a service to the American worker, now they are a service only to themselves.

At one point vaccinations were about killing diseases, now they are more a service to pharma companies than to the American child.


83 posted on 01/06/2011 10:13:32 AM PST by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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To: mewykwistmas

I guess the choice is either take your chances with flu, or be a guinea pig.


84 posted on 01/06/2011 10:16:06 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: kailbo
Vaccination is not based upon toxicity of the administered vaccine, but the presence of a 3-D structure that will be recognized by an Immune system antibody of an attenuated (usually dead or disabled) pathogen.

In utero the human immune system produces a vast assortment of antibodies via random shuffling of DNA. All those antibodies that “report back” that they have found a binding partner are destroyed, because they recognize “self”.

Thus a child is born with millions of different antibodies, none of which recognize “self”.

A vaccine is designed to “find” the appropriate antibody developed through random shuffling of DNA that will bind to the 3-D structure of the pathogen, and stimulate the body to produce a TON of that particular antibody (against measles for example, such that if the individual later gets infected by actual measles, the antibody will be present in enough quantity that you will not even get sick).

All this ‘nutrition to strengthen the immune system not toxins’ is silly. The immune system is “strengthened” by getting appropriate ‘information’ via vaccinations of what antibodies to proliferate to avoid measles, chicken pox, small pox, etc, etc.

85 posted on 01/06/2011 10:26:38 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: porter_knorr
Very few people contract the disease, vaccine use, very few people have the disease, vaccine use.

“It is the hot water, the soap, and better hygiene of today’s world.” ...keeping polio at bay.

Then in our pre-indoor plumbing history it should have been much much worse but the great killers were yellow fever and influenza.

Where the better hygiene would have made a real difference was in the handling of the diapers of babies receiving the oral live vaccine by adults.

“At one point vaccinations were about killing diseases, now they are more a service to pharma companies than to the American child.”

Nonsense! My child not choking to death with whooping cough or spending a life time crippled is worth more to me than all the financial gain any company could garner, my child not being a carrier of disease is important to everyone especially, ESPECIALLY those unvaccinated children.

86 posted on 01/06/2011 10:43:10 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: mewykwistmas

The left hand not knowing what the left hand is doing? I don’t know...


87 posted on 01/06/2011 10:49:03 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ccmay

And pharmaceutical companies have never killed children and made profits from forcing governments to mandate vaccines that have to be recalled for killing infants.....right....I’m mad and those companies are never out for making profits and “killing a few” is worth the “collective” good for putting known toxins into healthy babies when they do not even understand all the consequences of an aspirin.

Whoa....communists set up McCarthy to silence and vilify him also—does that make him a liar???????? and did Alger Hiss influence Yalta?

Do you really believe the agitprop of MSM ....if you don’t think there is a PC agenda—one which also covers vaccination = Good—you are really the mad one.

I would argue that I am the sane one....I do not believe the Marxist agitprop that has been in the Universities, textbooks and media since the communists infiltrated in 1930’s with advent of Dewey curricula and Dr Count’s and Dr. Harold Rugg’s Marxists insertions. Conditioning in thinking....in doctors....absolutely. You are naive if you think the Communists did not know how to “social engineer” the masses back when they took control of the teacher’s colleges and the “thinking”.

You believe those communists if you want....it is their propaganda that took down Wakefield. That is my point.


88 posted on 01/06/2011 10:53:43 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: count-your-change

and my friend’s that lost their baby 24 hours after vaccinations would strongly disagree with you.

It’s a tough choice trying to do what is best for your child. The best for now and for the future. But it’s a choice that parents need to make based on their convictions and study.

As an adult in college I had to twice take the measles vaccination because I didn’t have proof I’d had it previously. (outbreaks in two different states, 3 years apart) 13 years later when I was pregnant I was told I didn’t have immunity to it (did you have the immunization I was asked)and to stay away from kids who had the measles. Now, with three full rounds of vaccinations in my life - why wouldn’t I be protected from it? Why did my brothers get the mumps when we were all kids, and I didn’t? Why have I never had chicken pox, even though I have babysat kids with it (unknowingly). There’s just nothing certain with the vaccination - they think it works based on herd....but it doesn’t always.

There’s just too many personal and close circle friends that have serious issues from vaccinations that make it, in my opinion, an unsafe option.

I’d rather build up the immunity in my child naturally, avoid the side effects of vaccines (there are many besides autism) and deal with childhood diseases as they come.

You are welcome to choose differently, but you are not welcome to decide what I do for my kid.


89 posted on 01/06/2011 10:57:36 AM PST by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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To: drjimmy

Can’t argue with you because you do not understand the history of education in America and the infiltration into Columbia and Marxist control over all textbooks, teacher guides, etc. starting in the 1930’s. You probably have no idea of the “social thinking” of Dewey, nor the influence of Dr. Count or Dr. Rugg and the social engineering and conditioning of our future society for the last 100 years. Ideas matter......learn where yours originated.

Ignorance in Marxist infiltration and the “social engineering” and the constant PC about vaccines = good “premise” is a faulty foundation to have for your “facts” and “truth” of the matter.

By the way, study Political Correctness and the Marxist roots. Why is it un-PC to question the “good” of vaccines?

I thought scientific inquiry and debate were always the way to get to the “truth”. But, as Ben Stein says, “No Truth Allowed” under the Marxist paradigm. DESTROY all who QUESTION the proposed “TRUTH”!

You, sir, are a perfect little useful idiot.


90 posted on 01/06/2011 11:05:13 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: Abathar

Will any of your doctor friends take responsibility for adverse reactions to vaccinations?


91 posted on 01/06/2011 11:35:47 AM PST by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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To: porter_knorr

and why does this exist?

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/usc.cgi?ACTION=RETRIEVE&FILE=$$xa$$busc42.pt1.wais&start=7195792&SIZE=15571&TYPE=TEXT


92 posted on 01/06/2011 11:47:20 AM PST by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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To: porter_knorr

Do you know how many people are killed by aspirin every year? This is simply a numbers game, always has been and always will be. Will there be reactions to immunizations? Of course there will, everyone knows that. But is the death of 100 kids a year better than the deaths of 10,000?

The real crime is the number of kids who are going unvaccinated, getting and spreading diseases which kill, all because of this man’s report. After he published it there have been dozens of huge studies which fail to find any MMR-autism link. So then the anti-vaxers shift the goal post to thimerosal, then to “toxins,” then to “too many, too soon.” Because in their minds the autism came from the shots, no matter what science proves.


93 posted on 01/06/2011 11:50:48 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

It is so easy to research. I have asked pediatricians what are in shots that they recommend for my children and they have no idea what is in them.

Our education system, does not really educate anymore....it indoctrinates (if you haven’t noticed). Doctors are affected by the mass infiltration of Marxism into curricula that started in the 1930’s massively through Dewey, Dr. Rugg and Dr. Count.

Logic, reason and biology do not trump PC if you haven’t noticed. Vaccine = good is the PC Marxist thinking that has been promoted for the last 50 years.

Science is supposed to be debated and challenged—up until Marxist PC insertion. It is like questioning Global Warming....you will be vilified and destroyed if you do.

It is like questioning Darwin’s THEORY—you will be marginalized and destroyed and given no tenure and no grant money if you DARE mention ID.

Why is anyone who gives his “opinion” vilified and destroyed when there are so many correlations to deaths and vaccines that any logical person would get suspicious. With as much correlation and “coincidences” you would think a red flag would be raised UNLESS there is fascism at work.

I will post some sites where you can hear hundreds of doctors who disagree with vaccination schedules and question putting KNOWN TOXINS into healthy babies. Logic would have to say THEY make a GREAT POINT.

Also, something to think about: Why does our country—the most vaccinated in the world—have the most neurologically damaged children.

I am not against vaccinations per say—I am against vaccinations like the HEP B to one day old healthy infants....those pediatricians need to be put in prison for injecting those toxins into healthy infants.
I am for separation of vaccinations and in later ages for shot schedule.

Of course, all of the above is known to be better for children and safer...but it is less profit for Big Pharma and more scheduling for physicians (time they don’t have because of socialized medicine).


94 posted on 01/06/2011 11:51:16 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: Abathar

12 years before Wakefield’s report came out the government created the federal vaccine victim’s fund. Issues have been observed far too long to blame Wakefield for it.

It’s a myth, pushed on to gullibleparents that kids are dying in great amounts from not being vaccinated. That has become a, sadly popular, route to fear based decisions, not rational decisions.


95 posted on 01/06/2011 11:53:47 AM PST by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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To: Black Agnes
Children's flu vaccine does not have thimerosal, and if as an adult you want thimerosal free flu vaccine, just ask. Here is a chart from the CDC breaking down this years flu vaccine supply by manufacturer, and preservative:

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaxsupply.htm

96 posted on 01/06/2011 11:53:56 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: savagesusie
Why does our country—the most vaccinated in the world—have the most neurologically damaged children.

It doesn't. Now in the wake of Wakefield, you're going to be stripped of everything but cant.
97 posted on 01/06/2011 11:54:03 AM PST by aruanan
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To: porter_knorr

Years ago one of the binding agents used was derived from eggs I believe, my old landlord had a severe reaction to a vaccine injection (he is allergic to eggs also) many years ago, and he is still suffering horribly for it and the man is 80 years old.


98 posted on 01/06/2011 12:10:04 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

There are studies that prove a link....they just are discredited by the Marxist PC-ers who have been indoctrinating people like you with “vaccine = good” and discrediting-like all good Marxists—anyone who DARES disagree. I want debate, that is all. I want Alinsky out of the discussions and the studies—as if they are not bought off by Big Pharma.....that has been proven also. Why were these companies NOT vilified like Wakefield 24/7? Hmmmmmm.

The Marxist Bible to destroy Western Civilization:
Global Warming = real
Darwin’s Theory = Fact
Thimerosal = “safe” when in fact minute amounts destroy neurons in the brain
Homosexuality = genetic and not behavior
Homosexuality = natural
God = doesn’t exist
Vaccines = ALL GOOD- no toxins in them (ha ha).
Welfare = self sufficiency and independence from govt.
Schools = Federally controlled now—Is that a good thing???? or Marxist intent????????...it is the best vehicle for mass indoctrination and CONFORMITY of thought.

There are many doctors who will argue that vaccines are causing neurological diseases. Gulf war syndrome was caused by a preservative in vaccines.

Who makes the vaccines....????? What’s in them? Really? Government oversite?????? Some parts made in China? India??? That makes me feel REALLY safe. What about the Gates population control Malthusiacs....who want 3 billion people eliminated—could they do a little manipulation with the vaccines and sterilize the masses.....yes, they have discussed that.

Government collusion to kill masses? Impossible!!!!!! Right.

Motive for mass vaccinations....Conditioning-yes. For what I ask?

Fascism....yes, it is.


99 posted on 01/06/2011 12:15:32 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: aruanan

“The relationship of vaccinations to encephalopathies and neurological diseases have been surfacing in medical journals since the advent of mass vaccination programs. Autism was unheard of before vaccinations, and parallel mass vaccination programs very nicely. ADD and learning disorders in children are now being traced to childhood vaccinations, as well as convulsions, paralysis, and epilepsy. Brain damage is by far the most common adverse reaction associated with vaccinations, although their actual numbers are not often reported correctly.”

Oh, yes, a discredited site—OF COURSE.

I don’t know where you get your statistics —oh, yes, of course, from the pharmaceutical agitprop.


100 posted on 01/06/2011 12:27:12 PM PST by savagesusie
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