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Lysenkoism (before Sagan, Hanson and global warming "consensus" there was Stalin's scientist)
BBC ^ | January 7, 2011 | Vanity

Posted on 01/07/2011 7:24:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

In 1928, as America lurched towards the Wall Street Crash, Joseph Stalin revealed his master plan - nature was to be conquered by science, Russia to be made brutally, glitteringly modern and the world transformed by communist endeavour.

Into the heart of this vision stepped Trofim Lysenko, a self-taught geneticist who promised to turn Russian wasteland into a grain-laden Garden of Eden. Today, Lysenko is a byword for fraud but in Stalin’s Russia his outlandish ideas about genetic inheritance and evolution became law. They reveal a world of science distorted by ideology, where ideas were literally a matter of life and death. To disagree with Lysenko risked the gulag and yet he destroyed Soviet Agriculture and damaged, perhaps irreparably, the Soviet Union’s capacity to fight and win the Cold War.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: collective; consensusscience; genetics; globalwarming; gloriesofcommunism; greenreligion; heredity; leftuniverse; lysenko; mendel; stalin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTTT...Hansenism


21 posted on 01/07/2011 10:23:37 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTTT...Hansenism


22 posted on 01/07/2011 10:23:48 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

whoops


23 posted on 01/07/2011 10:24:21 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: DManA
HOW the inheritance is read via the methylation pattern of DNA is passed on, yet this is NOT a permanent change, and can (and will) be changed in subsequent generations.

The entire idea that such a temporary change could lead to permanent changes among different populations that it could lead to the observed speciation is one without any merit.... so far.

Show me a mechanism whereby environmentally acquired traits can effect PERMINANT changes in the DNA of a species, and you might have something.

DNY methylation (epigenetics) is NOT such a mechanism.

24 posted on 01/07/2011 10:29:12 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
ahem...

DNA methylation (epigenetics) is NOT such a mechanism.

25 posted on 01/07/2011 10:30:21 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: metmom
Goodness, this sounds eerily familiar......

It certainly does.

26 posted on 01/07/2011 10:41:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: I got the rope

Thanks!

We need a lot of rope!


27 posted on 01/07/2011 10:42:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: allmendream

I didn’t say there was a mechanism that changed the DNA permanently. I said some acquired traits are passed on to subsequent generations.

Solid science show it.


28 posted on 01/07/2011 10:49:30 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA
Yet before any sort of epigenetic mechanism can EVER be thought to change a species and thus be a mechanism of evolution, it would need to effect such a permanent change in inheritance.

It does not.

29 posted on 01/07/2011 10:56:02 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Ok one more time. I didn’t say it did.


30 posted on 01/07/2011 11:00:31 AM PST by DManA
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To: Steely Tom

If you want a great example of this in the world of diet and obesity, read Gary Taubes’ new book, “Why We Get Fat.” Basically, it’s global warming with proteins.


31 posted on 01/07/2011 1:40:26 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I see it this way, science or not, I find it possible that plenty of politicians who preach it actually don’t believe it. What most people sometimes forget is that the road to Communism is paved by politicians setting themselves up as the Savior figure, that is use a policy to take credit for saving the state from some larger than life disaster. A good example was Stalin claiming to have saved the Soviet Union from a total collapse, but we ultimately knew that collapse had been occurring for decades, and rubbed it in their face eventually.

In today’s case, I am not claiming to know, but am saying it is possible that most of these political figures that advocate some sort of Armaggeddon really want to get the glory when this Armaggeddon they present to us in such films as “An Inconvenient Truth”, because as these great projections don’t come true, give or take a few years, these guys will be shouting and trumpeting their glory of having saved us from the disaster they predicted from Global Warming, Climate Change, or whatever technobabble they like to toss around at us, and say that their increasingly draconian policies were what saved us. If organized religious groups did it, why can’t they.


32 posted on 01/09/2011 12:49:32 AM PST by Morpheus2009 (Give me liberty or Give me Death - Patrick Henry)
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