Panel says women should be allowed in combat units

Associated Press ^ | Jan. 14, 2011 | PAULINE JELINEK

[Free ThinkerNY]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A military advisory commission is recommending that the Pentagon do away with a policy that bans women from serving in combat units, breathing new life into a long-simmering debate.

[antidemoncrat]

Be careful of what you wish for.

[org.whodat]

Should go well with boys in pink panties. Actually might be better, they don’t have limp wrists.

[Seven plus One]

What’d I say about ‘fulfillment’ or ‘opportunity’? Pass the test, meet the team. No ‘sport’, dude.

[sarasmom]

Do they also plan on lowering physical eligibility requirements for combat positions to achieve diversity?
Why is “diversity” even a goal in the DOD?
Attrition levels not high enough in the last few and/or current combat operations?

As a USAF veteran, who served in combat support operations, I reject the relentless push by “diversity experts” to continuously ratchet down military combat readiness and effectiveness.

I had the honor and privilege of serving under the command of many great “leaders” and a very few (thankfully) incompetent political appointees.
What “brilliant” discredited idea will they come up with next?
Forced military conscription for all 18 year olds with no minimum physical and/or mental standards ?

[gdzla]

Rush once recommended what he called an “Amazon Brigade” a couple of times way back on his show. His idea was that there should be four brigades to be deployed for a week each month coinciding with their menstrual cycle to take advantage of PMS. Have you ever had to deal with a woman with PMS? Imagine what they could accomplish on the battlefield LOL.

[vpintheak]

KISS MY BUTTOCKS PANEL!

[oldsalt]

Let’s see,now we’ll have gays and females fighting side by side with the few heterosexual males that will remain...what could possibly go wrong?

[SgtHooper]

EOD engineers. That should do it.

[Salvavida]

Yep. We had a female armourer in our company in Desert Storm. When we returned, she paid cash for a BMW. She was an E-3.

[AnonymousConservative]

Liberalism is an evolutionary psychology which developed to seize personal advantage in Darwinian selection, regardless of the good of the group. In individual competition, they will seek to repress the free competition which selects for greatness, and advances a species’ evolution.

In group competition, they will seek to betray their own, for personal advantage. The Liberal want’s a foreign Horde to take over our country and bring freedom to an end. Had the NVA and VC they would have elevated Hippies to leadership positions, and the Hippie would have fulfilled the purpose of their evolutionary psychology. That is why Hippies wanted our defeat.

Here, the Liberal is out and out seeking to destroy our military, to pave the way for our defeat.

That the Liberal is unaware that their defective psychology is programmed to do this is not a defense. They are still traitors, pure and simple, if only subconsciously motivated.

We need to up the acrimony and partisan rancor, if we are to quell this treason. If we don’t, our children will have it really ugly.

[PapaBear3625]

Only the Israelis have pulled off combat roles for women, simply beause they are dedicated, patriotic, and necessary, and women come from all over the world to serve there.Not entirely so in our country.IMHO that butchers bill would be too high to pay.

The Israelis do NOT put women in combat roles. See my post #18 and the linked article. Israeli women are the trainers and do support functions, but they are not sent into combat. They do get combat TRAINING, because in the final extreme they will be the ones defending the children if the Arabs break through the Israeli lines.

[El Gato]

Let’s see, cut the Army by 27,000, USMC by 20,000. Replace many of the men in the combat units with women, presumably both gay and straight, plus gay men.

The Jihadies, the NK’s and the Chinese must be laughing themselves silly.

[El Gato]

Same as happened to some of those women captured by the Iraqis in Desert Storm and the second Gulf war.

[Finny]

This is the third move in the deliberate sabotage of our armed forces and military.

First it was women in submarines. ANY such boat that goes up against a boat operated by an all-male crew, will be severely at disadvantage.

Then it was welcoming open homosexuality (repeal of don't ask, don't tell) in the ranks. Again, it can only serve to weaken a fighting force.

Now this.

Social engineering? Maybe. Deliberate sabotage? Certainly.

[El Gato]

Only the Israelis have pulled off combat roles for women,

No, they tried that in '48, didn't work out well. Women serve in support roles, some of them in combat support and some in training men for combat roles, such as armored vehicle driver and gunner.

[Candor7]

You say that Israeli women soldiers are not sent into front line combat but are trained to be sent into combat as a last resort?Well its just not that simple.There is a whole unit of front line female infantry, called the Caracal Battalion.

I do not think that America needs full unit female combat soldiers either. The political correctness surrounding their deployment and use would get them all killed very quickly, or alternatively get many others killed.

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Israeli Women Volunteer For Combat

October 28, 2009: Israel has, over the last few decades, expanded the number of combat jobs women can volunteer for. Israel conscripts men (for three years) and women (for two years). But women have more exemptions (especially marriage). Women who volunteer for combat duty are hard core, because not only will they have to undergo some hard training, but will have to serve three years on active duty, plus several years as reservists. This is necessary to justify the longer training required.

Like many other countries, Israeli military police units contain men and women. Same with dog handlers, border guards, artillery units and some search and rescue units. Women have long served as flight instructors, as well as trainers for tank crews.

There is also a largely female infantry unit, the Caracal Battalion. Part of the 512th Brigade in Southern Command, the battalion was formed in 2000 to provide a place for women who wanted to be in the infantry. It’s a light infantry unit that mainly serves along the Jordanian or Egyptian borders. The battalion took part in safeguarding Israeli civilians and troops during the 2005 evacuation of Gaza. Initially, about half the troops in Caracal were female, as are most of the officers and NCOs, and, usually, the commander. Now about 90 percent of the Caracal members are women. While many troops see Caracal as a publicity stunt and a sop to the feminists, the unit has performed well, and has a reputation as a non-nonsense and reliable outfit.

During their independence war in 1948, Israel had female infantry units, but these were withdrawn. Not because the women couldn’t fight, but because Arab units facing them became more fanatical, and less likely to surrender, when they realized they were fighting women. Conservative Jewish clergy in Israel want women to be barred from combat jobs, while Arab radicals are urging more women to get involved in terrorism operations, including suicide bombings.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htinf/20091028.aspx

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[Candor7]

See my post 56. The Caracal Light Infrantry battalion is 90 per cent female, and fully deployed as a female front line infantry unit in the Southern Command of Israel. It is an all volunteer battalion.

So contrary to popular belief, women are indeed voluntarily deployed in Israel in full combat infantry roles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caracal_battalion.jpg

[El Gato]

That would be OK, mostly, IF they would make *all* the requirements the same as they were in say, 1960 for the men.

But in reality that won’t happen. Women would still be underrepresented, and so the standards would be different for them, or they’ll make the standards the same for everyone, but they’d be ones most of the women could pass.

[kingattax]

more insanity PING

[Ole Okie]

ROFL!!