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After Tucson, Blanket Accusations Leave Much to Interpretation (NYT getting defensive)
The New York Times ^ | January 16, 2011 | Brian Stelter and Jeremy W. Peters

Posted on 01/17/2011 2:44:16 AM PST by abb

FOR every action in politics today, there’s an overwhelming and opposite reaction.

Last week, the reaction came from conservative politicians who bridled at suggestions in the media that Jared L. Loughner may have been influenced by right-wing rhetoric and talk radio when he killed six people and gravely wounded Representative Gabrielle Giffords in a rampage on Jan. 8 in Tucson. In her video address on Wednesday, Sarah Palin said that journalists and pundits should not manufacture “a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn.”

The question left unanswered: which journalists and pundits?

While there was plenty of debate in newspapers, and on radio and television about the effects of a toxic politic environment, most of the direct accusations against conservative talk radio and pundits were leveled by people online, not members of the mainstream media.

Keith Olbermann, the MSNBC host and reliable bête noire of conservative pundits, used the opportunity to recall his own use of a violent image when describing the candidacy of then-Senator Hillary Clinton: “It sounded as if it was a call to physical violence. It was wrong then. It is even more wrong tonight. I apologize for it again, and I urge politicians and commentators and citizens of every political conviction to use my comment as a means to recognize the insidiousness of violent imagery.”

But on the Web, where anonymity often reigns, the blame game was much more pointed. In The Huffington Post, Gary Hart wrote about attacks on liberals and concluded that “today we have seen the results of this rhetoric.”

On Ms. Palin’s Facebook wall, thousands of supporters and detractors argued about whether she and other right-wing voices had any culpability in the shootings.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dbm; gabriellegiffords; giffords; jaredloughner; loughner; media; nytimes; tucson
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The State-Run Media begins the crawfish maneuver.
1 posted on 01/17/2011 2:44:22 AM PST by abb
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To: 04-Bravo; 1cewolf; aimhigh; andyandval; Arizona Carolyn; Bahbah; bert; bilhosty; Caipirabob; ...

ping


2 posted on 01/17/2011 2:45:17 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
"Jared L. Loughner may have been influenced by right-wing rhetoric and talk radio when he killed six people and gravely wounded Representative Gabrielle Giffords"

The Last Honest Liberal-Caitie Parker (Friend of AZ Shooter)
Multiple including twitter interview by Freeper ^ | 1-9-11 | Icwhatudo

Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:32:27 AM by icwhatudo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2653697/posts
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Here are Caitie Parker's (a former friend of the shooter) original responses to 3 different Twitter posters (the 'at' symbol @ = To: _______ )

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3 posted on 01/17/2011 2:50:06 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: abb
“Loughner’s former [best] friend [Zach Osler] said that he was mostly influenced by the Zeitgeist Movement. Below is the ABC video interview with Jared Loughner’s friend, Zach Osler.” [see first link below]

Zach Osler (video at link): [pp] “Zeitgeist Movement had a PROFOUND effect on shooter and how he saw the world”
http://www.norcalblogs.com/gate/2011/01/shooter-never-listened-to-talk-radio-called-gifford-stupid-after-meeting-her.php
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The ‘Zeitgeist Movement’ is basically a global Marxism one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

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Concepts advocated by the Zeitgeist Movement

* Management of the Earth's Natural Resources: Once surveyed, the Earth's natural resources will no longer be privately owned. They will be managed according to general sustainability principles of preservation, recycling and optimization.

* No Money, Barter, Trade or Property: The monetary value of commodities does not represent the actual physical supply of natural resources, or their utilitarian value, which is integral to the success of the type of sustainable global society that the Zeitgeist Movement advocates. Income is a requirement for individuals to sustain life in a monetary system, so this in turn creates the need for commodities to be continuously bought and sold and for goods to be continuously produced, in order to make sure that the operation of social functions is maintained. This, combined with competition over market share, creates an abundance of goods that usually exceeds the demand for them, which in turn depletes natural resources and may create excessive waste.

Furthermore, the profit motive inherent in a monetary system, creates an incentive to increase profits regardless of the impact on human beings or the environment. When labor is displaced or outsourced, it either removes a laborer's source of sustenance, or takes advantage of inexpensive laborers. Certain manufacturers and corporations have been noted to contaminate the environment by dumping their by-products and waste materials, instead of disposing of them properly, in order to save money. Other manufacturers have been known to take advantage of a process called planned obsolescence in order to increase sales of their products over time. With universal access to goods and services provided by a sustainable means of production based on resource availability, optimization and preservation, these problems of a monetary economy can be overcome.

* Automation: Machine automation is more productive than human labor and replaces the need for people to perform repetitive and tedious tasks.

* Technological Unification of the Earth: Globally networked technological infrastructure is required to monitor planetary resources in real time, and theoretically make the most efficient use of them in solving planetary problems.

* Scientific Methodology: Decision making regarding the methods of production, what goods and services are to be provided, city planning and resource optimization, preservation and recycling will be arrived at by analysing relevant trends and data, via use of the scientific method.

* Sustainable City Systems: Utilizing a systemic approach for a sustainable global society, city systems may act as microcosm to the global network of technological infrastructure. The city system can incorporate all manufacturing, goods and services that people will use on a daily basis within the city limits. The city system may also utilize a cybernetic central computer to monitor energy and resource supply, usage and other relevant data in real time, relaying this information to other city systems that make up the macrocosm of the technologically unified globe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

4 posted on 01/17/2011 2:51:06 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: abb

Given that the screw ball was a lefty, perhaps he shot Giffords because she, being a Conservative ‘Blue Dog’ democrat, wasn’t left enough for him.


5 posted on 01/17/2011 2:52:40 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: abb
most of the direct accusations against conservative talk radio and pundits were leveled by people online, not members of the mainstream media

That's an outright lie. Within hours the media was all naming names, the same names, all in perfect synchronization.

6 posted on 01/17/2011 2:52:51 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: abb
On Ms. Palin’s Facebook wall, thousands of supporters and detractors argued about whether she and other right-wing voices had any culpability in the shootings.

Ah, yes, the MSM penchant for hiding behind false and offsetting equivalencies!

HF

7 posted on 01/17/2011 2:53:08 AM PST by holden
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From 2 DAYS before the shooting...

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KOS: My CongressWOMAN [Giffords] voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
dailyKOS via google cache ^ | BoyBlue

Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:39:18 PM by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2653556/posts

8 posted on 01/17/2011 2:54:01 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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From 2008...

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http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png

9 posted on 01/17/2011 2:54:28 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: abb

Hey NY Times, didn’t you read this?

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ blood is on Sarah Palin’s hands after putting cross hair over district

MICHAEL DALY

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html


10 posted on 01/17/2011 3:02:35 AM PST by jimbo123
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Following the shooting...

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Sarah Palin's Culpability in Attempted Assassination of Giffords
by BJ Rudell
Sat Jan 08, 2011 at 12:23:13 PM PST
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/8/934315/-Sarah-Palins-Culpability-in-Attempted-Assassination-of-Giffords

11 posted on 01/17/2011 3:04:40 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: jimbo123

Hello NY Times - look no further than your own glass house. Paul Krugman still works there.


12 posted on 01/17/2011 3:40:23 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: abb
CT-dummy03

kill-palin

palin hate

13 posted on 01/17/2011 3:40:28 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Islander7
Wow.....Seems this would be a likely place to quickly locate the insane.....for "the list", ya know...

Should one of these names become part of a future violent act again Palin, will the left point fingers at itself for inaction?

14 posted on 01/17/2011 3:54:13 AM PST by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: cbkaty
Should one of these names become part of a future violent act again Palin, will the left point fingers at itself for inaction?

They'll be too busy celebrating. Like a rape victim, she brought it on herself, doncha know.

15 posted on 01/17/2011 3:59:50 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: abb

http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/digital/e3i3ff8c026f44b7e5156b70ce728aadf87
Pubs Push Own Ad Nets

http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/digital/e3i3ff8c026f44b7e511e974db0eaf202d0
Cable Sizzles, Broadcast Fizzles


16 posted on 01/17/2011 4:33:06 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
The State-Run Media ...

Actually, the preferred term is Obama Run Government Assisted State Media ... or O.R.G.A.S.M.

17 posted on 01/17/2011 5:27:49 AM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: abb

The Times seems to forget that it was their own Paul Krugman who led the charge putting the blood libel out there.


18 posted on 01/17/2011 5:36:17 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Islander7
Wow! Those websites you screen captured are for real!

Here's a link to the first one:

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-hate-it-when-I-wake-up-and-Sarah-Palin-is-still-alive/129929197021040

19 posted on 01/17/2011 6:24:02 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Cementjungle
most of the direct accusations against conservative talk radio and pundits were leveled by people online, not members of the mainstream media

That's an outright lie.

Correct. CNN and Yahoo were among the SRM cabal touting the SarahPAC map. I noticed these two without even searching. I just stumbled across them.

20 posted on 01/17/2011 6:44:03 AM PST by matt1234 (0bama's bunker phase: Nov. 2010 - Jan. 2013)
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