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Richard Lindzen: AGW movement driven by money, power and dubious science
quando ^ | Bruce McQuain

Posted on 01/18/2011 9:14:32 PM PST by ventanax5

One of the reasons I constantly ask those who believe in AGW what the “perfect temperature” for the world is and how we can achieve it is I understand that the only constant in the earth’s climate is change. The world’s climate has always been changing in various cycles since its formation. History shows us that we’ve had periods of more CO2 than now, warmer periods than now and neither of the events can be explained away by blaming man.

How we got into this scared mode of screaming about gloom and doom if we don’t do something is both interesting and constructive. But a couple of things first. Lindzen discusses the role of models in the current debate and why anyone seeing their output should be very skeptical of their conclusions...

My favorite paragraph though, is Lindzen’s parting shot , er, conclusion:

With all this at stake, one can readily suspect that there might be a sense of urgency provoked by the possibility that warming may have ceased and that the case for such warming as was seen being due in significant measure to man, disintegrating. For those committed to the more venal agendas, the need to act soon, before the public appreciates the situation, is real indeed. However, for more serious leaders, the need to courageously resist hysteria is clear. Wasting resources on symbolically fighting ever present climate change is no substitute for prudence. Nor is the assumption that the earth’s climate reached a point of perfection in the middle of the twentieth century a sign of intelligence.

(Excerpt) Read more at qando.net ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agw; co2; globalwarming; greenhouse; lindzen; temperature

1 posted on 01/18/2011 9:14:34 PM PST by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

Richard Lindzen article.

http://thegwpf.org/opinion-pros-a-cons/2229-richard-lindzen-a-case-against-precipitous-climate-action.html


2 posted on 01/18/2011 9:19:35 PM PST by ventanax5
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Linzden was on this issue way back when ITV produced The GreenHouse Conspiracy.


3 posted on 01/18/2011 9:26:40 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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Good find. I like the follow-the-money part:

“The case of ENRON (a now bankrupt Texas energy firm) is illustrative in this respect. Before disintegrating in a pyrotechnic display of unscrupulous manipulation, ENRON had been one of the most intense lobbyists for Kyoto. It had hoped to become a trading firm dealing in carbon emission rights. This was no small hope. These rights are likely to amount to over a trillion dollars, and the commissions will run into many billions. Hedge funds are actively examining the possibilities; so was the late Lehman Brothers. Goldman Sachs has lobbied extensively for the ‘cap and trade’ bill, and is well positioned to make billions. It is probably no accident that Gore, himself, is associated with such activities. The sale of indulgences is already in full swing with organizations selling offsets to one’s carbon footprint while sometimes acknowledging that the offsets are irrelevant. The possibilities for corruption are immense. Archer Daniels Midland (America’s largest agribusiness) has successfully lobbied for ethanol requirements for gasoline, and the resulting demand for ethanol may already be contributing to large increases in corn prices and associated hardship in the developing world (not to mention poorer car performance). And finally, there are the numerous well meaning individuals who have allowed propagandists to convince them that in accepting the alarmist view of anthropogenic climate change, they are displaying intelligence and virtue For them, their psychic welfare is at stake.”

Lindzen is good -— one of my first “Wow! He’s right!” reads a few years ago.


4 posted on 01/18/2011 9:57:32 PM PST by Bhoy
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Inevitably in climate science, when data conflicts with models, a small coterie of scientists can be counted upon to modify the data. Thus, Santer, et al (2008), argue that stretching uncertainties in observations and models might marginally eliminate the inconsistency. That the data should always need correcting to agree with models is totally implausible and indicative of a certain corruption within the climate science community.

Ouch.

It is always great to hear from Lindzen.

5 posted on 01/18/2011 10:33:58 PM PST by TChad
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Global Warming Panic explained
6 posted on 01/18/2011 10:45:11 PM PST by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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That's very good, thanks.

"They don't give out Nobel Prizes for nothing."
(long pause)
"Normally."

Perfect.

7 posted on 01/18/2011 11:08:49 PM PST by TChad
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

8 posted on 01/19/2011 3:51:58 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: ventanax5
I Think the best part of Lindzen's article is found in the last 2 sentences:

"Wasting resources on symbolically fighting ever present climate change is no substitute for prudence. Nor is the assumption that the earth’s climate reached a point of perfection in the middle of the twentieth century a sign of intelligence."

9 posted on 01/19/2011 9:34:40 AM PST by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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Thanks for posting this!


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