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To: butterdezillion

Wondering if you caught a comment coming out of the Gov’s office, via the AG. When I read it my mouth dropped. Wondering what you think of it or if you caught it.

The AG says because of privacy laws what’s written in the archives can’t be released (same song and dance) but now with a added twist. “The Governor can’t do anything about it and EITHER can the president”. He finishes it up lamenting how conspiracy nuts will continue to question Da Won....

Aside from the ridiculous notion that the Gov can’t sign a release for the records for the good of the people or because they are public record or just because he’s the governor is flat out wrong. The AG’s office knows this as does the Gov.

But now they’ve added a new dance step after years years of claiming only Obama can release them - now even he’s not able to do so??? WTF?

Are we to believe Hawaii has a law specific to Barack H. Obama Jr, POTUS, that prevents him and only him from requesting his own documentation on his own birth?

The only plausible scenario where that could happen is in the case of adoption and the records are sealed. Even then, they can be released by the signature of a Judge (for whatever conditions Hawaii has for releasing records).

According to law.adoption.com adults can access their adoption records, including original identifying information by making a request to the courts. Even if he was adopted his records can be unsealed and as POTUS I’d say his request alone would expedite that release under any circumstances.

http://laws.adoption.com/statutes/hawaii-laws.html

Who May Access Information
Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14.5; 578-15

Health information may be provided to:
The adult adoptee
The adoptive parent
The minor adoptee’s guardian or custodian
Adoption records may be accessed by:

The adult adoptee
The adoptive parents
The birth parents
Access to Nonidentifying Information
Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14.5; 578-15

The Department of Health shall prepare a standard medical information form to obtain medical information on the birth parents of the minor adoptee. This form shall include a request for any information about the adopted child’s potential genetic or other inheritable diseases, including similar medical histories, if known, of the parents of the birth parents. All child-placing organizations shall make reasonable efforts to complete this form on both birth parents, to obtain from the natural parents written consent to the release of this information to or for the benefit of the adopted child, and whenever possible, to obtain from the natural mother a signed release to receive a copy of all of her medical records relating to the birth of the adopted child that are in the possession of the hospital or other facility at which the child was born. The completed forms shall be included in the department’s adoption records.
Upon written application from the adult adoptee, or the adoptive parent, guardian, or custodian on behalf of a minor adoptee, the Department of Health shall furnish the applicant with a copy of the completed forms. The department is authorized to disclose the information without prior court approval.

Information concerning the ethnic background and necessary medical information may be released regardless of the presence of a confidentiality affidavit.

Mutual Access to Identifying Information
Citation: Rev. Stat. § 578-15

An adoptee who is age 18 or older may submit a written request to the family court for inspection of adoption records. Such records will be released unless the birth parents have filed a confidentiality affidavit. Such affidavits may be renewed every 10 years.

The adoptee may submit an affidavit person consenting to the inspection of records by the birth parents.

Access to Original Birth Certificate
Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14; 578-15; 338-20

If a new birth certificate is issued, the original birth certificate shall be sealed. The sealed document may be opened by the department only by an order of a court or when requested in accordance with § 578-15.

The birth parent may be provided a copy of the original birth certificate upon request.

Where the Information Can Be Located

Family Court Central Registry

Contact:
Family Court Registry
Court Management Services
777 Punchbowl Street
Honolulu, HI 96811

Obtaining an Original Birth Certificate:
An adoptee must petition the court in which the adoption was finalized.

Next post on the adoption theory though.


59 posted on 01/29/2011 3:55:18 PM PST by Brytani (Liberals - destroying America since 1776)
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To: Brytani; butterdezillion

Let’s assume for a minute that Obama is really adopted and that is what he’s been trying to hide.

Being adopted does not disqualify a person from becoming President. Clinton was adopted by his step-father, Ford was an infant adoption.

Occam’s Razor -

Embarrassed by their daughters teenage pregnancy, to a mix race child, Stanley’s parents decide to adopt the baby, until she is finished with her schooling and can take control/custody. A common occurring even in families today. If this is the case, it helps Obama.

As soon as he was adopted he becomes under the law the same as any biological child of any other parents. His adoption by two Americans, native born citizens in fact (as far as we know) would provide Obama with NBC status. On top of that, it gives him a sob story.

His poor teenage mother, had to finish her education and his Grandparents did what they felt was right. As soon as Stanley could she came and got her son...blah blah blah...tears all around. Problem solved.

If it’s a Step-Parent adoption like Clinton’s. So LoLo adopted him, another common situation. He has problems in showing where he changed his name back (if he ever did) or regained his US passport but most Americans won’t worry about such trivial things.

His mother wanted him to have the father he never had, Obama himself refused to leave behind his (get out the kleenex) American Roots, reverting back to his birth name...blah blah. The “birthers” are left with trying to force the courts hands to put into law what NBC is (although, it’s pretty clear already and why they Framers didn’t have to “spell” it out). Public opinion falls back on Obama’s side - the poor guy, having to justify an adoption that he had no control over and on and on...

Those are the only two plausible scenario’s unless we start getting into the “whose the daddy” theories.

Either one, a simple request to the courts springs the lock to any sealed records. I know this from personal experience.

I had my sealed adoption records unlocked by the State of Virginia (a closed records state) by simply asking a judge. And I’m not even President of the United States.


60 posted on 01/29/2011 4:17:32 PM PST by Brytani (Liberals - destroying America since 1776)
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To: Brytani

Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)(9), a confidential birth record can be released without the permission of the person named on the record to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”
In brief, Obama’s birth certificate can be subpoenaed. A congressional committee subpoena would also work.


61 posted on 01/29/2011 4:29:02 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Brytani

Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)(9), a confidential birth record can be released without the permission of the person named on the record to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”
In brief, Obama’s birth certificate can be subpoenaed. A congressional committee subpoena would also work.


62 posted on 01/29/2011 4:30:30 PM PST by jamese777
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