Posted on 02/01/2011 2:07:06 PM PST by AZ .44 MAG
Should all gun sales be subject to a background check? Yes, No, Undecided
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Hmmm... triple post ....
Either FR is about to go down again or I broke the internet.
Yes
37%
No
61%
The abuses that the FBI have already perpetrated with the NICS system are unfathomable: Innocent people being put into a “hold” status for weeks, forced to provide fingerprints to prove who they are (or aren't), vindictive LEO’s, organizations, and states putting people in the system over child support issues (even without criminal charges), expired drivers licenses, etc.
The BATF threatens dealers against transferring after the allowable 3 day pending period.
I owned a gun shop and hate the NICS system with a passion. I wish it was never put into place. Nobody who isn't actively incarcerated has the right to own, carry and use firearms regardless of what the law says. The constitution overrides the law. People forget that it wasn't until 1968 that felons were prohibited from owning firearms by federal law. Back then there were many fewer felons. Now it's a race between the states and feds to see who can come up with the quickest way to swell the number of felons in their system.
I love jury duty. I hope I get a gun case next time because I will hang that jury and nullify any attempt to convict anyone of any “crime” dealing with the possession or carrying of a firearm regardless of who the perp is. Those laws are abhorrent to the constitution and need to be undone by any means necessary. Legislation hasn't worked. Jury nullification is next. The 2nd amendment is universal and worth. First we must take it back.
No. Lenient crime sentencing and repeat offenders are a bigger threat than non-background checked private gun sales, IMHO.
KGUN 9 POLL
Should all gun sales be subject to a background check?
Yes
No
Undecided
Thank you for participating in our poll. Here are the results so far:
Yes
37%
No
61%
Undecided
2%
I have several firearms for sale, should I sell them to you sight unseen or should I request validation that you are eligible to purchase a firearm? In other words, prove to me you're not a convicted felon...
How about for axes? Swords? Kinves? SUVs?
I would never sell anything to anyone if I thought they were going to use it illegally. What is in question here is whether or not the government should oversee private transactions of legally owned goods.
I think not.
But it was a good one.
I broke the internet.
Damn you!
“They’d have to go house to house ransacking the place...”
You mean how Aloph Hitler did it? Ban all guns, then physically confiscate them.
Which I'm sure they're on record claiming isn't what they want anyway. So if you figure out a way to give them what they CLAIM they want without also giving them what they CLAIM they don't want, it puts them in a bind. What can they say? Good work!
Nope, the background check should apply only when buying from some one who does not know the buyer personally.
Such as if I walk into a gun store to buy a gun, they should
be required to check me out.
If my brother-in-law wants to sell me a Glock, he knows me personally and he is taking the responsibility for the sale to a non-criminal. Therefor I agree with you no check is required.
Non related issue. I do not want convicted criminals to be able to buy firearms easily.
I also want penalties for illegal use of firearms to be very severe.
Exactly right...which is why I strongly favor 2nd Amendment and NO RESTRICTIONS for law abiding citizens to buy firearms.
However I do not relish the idea of a convicted criminal to be able to walk in a store and buy gun, no questions asked.
And people caught with illegal use of firearms should be put away in prison for a very long time.
You are sounding like my wife. She also thinks my thinking is flawed.
Thank you sincerely, love to be here.
All a convicted criminal has to do is send someone with a clean record, such as a girlfriend, into the store to make the purchase for him. Those who are criminal or criminal bent won’t have a problem getting a gun no matter how tough the gun laws are. OTOH, think about the wasted man hours complying with a worthless law that only serves to inhibit law abiding citizens in their purchase of a gun. It’s costly, foolish and unconstitutional.
And how would you propose to find out whether the person is a convicted felon, since by design background checks are going to return a lot of false positives?
In that scenario the girl friend becomes accessory to a crime and can be convicted into prison. If she wants to take the fall for the felon, it is a stupid choice on her part. Her name will be on record and it will be easily proven where the felon obtained the gun.
Not every girl friend is that stupid, so it does make it a bit more difficult for convicted felons in general to purchase firearms.
But in the end the best method is to have very severe punishments for illegal use of firearms. Like mandatory 20 year sentence.
Also with today’s technology it is not all that time consuming to log into a FBI data base to check your crime history. It is a shame illegals are not checked every time they apply for a job or drivers license for their immigration status.
You said background checks? Absolutely!!!!
I believe in this how it is written!!!!
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
as far as the 2nd amendment is written any free citizen may own Bazooka you bet, cannons yep, tanks Ok by me, machine guns yes sir!!!!
Please read it again and see how I define a “background check”
:)
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