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Boehner Faces First Defections
Roll Call ^ | 2-9-11 | By Kathleen Hunter and Anna Palmer

Posted on 02/09/2011 5:38:04 PM PST by Graneros

In less than 24 hours this week, the new Speaker witnessed an uprising from within his own ranks that resulted in a trio of legislative setbacks. It was an early reminder that party unity isn’t a given and that the Ohio Republican has some work to do to keep his Members in line.

He doesn’t have much time. Divisions are already surfacing over the forthcoming continuing resolution, set to come to the floor next week, which would cut federal spending by $32 billion, far less than the $100 billion that conservatives claim leaders promised during the campaign.

Boehner on Wednesday acknowledged the challenges he faces.

“We’ve been in the majority four weeks,” Boehner told reporters. “We’re not going to be perfect every day.”

Although conservative Republicans were among the defectors, GOP leaders disputed the notion that their decision to pull a trade bill from the floor late Tuesday and their failure to muster a two-thirds vote to pass an extension of the USA PATRIOT Act a few hours later signaled that they had lost control of the Conference.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; leadership; teaparty
I hope the debt ceiling doesn't pass. C'mon Tea party Caucus put the brakes on these go along to get along games. Show the Rep leadership you've got a pair.
1 posted on 02/09/2011 5:38:08 PM PST by Graneros
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To: Graneros
We can only hope that the handful of Conservatives in the House can make some impact, and FORCE more budget cutting and un-doing the harm that's been done by the past Congress.....

However, they are SMALL in numbers, and the Establishment will put the screws to them all.

I don't forsee major impact at all this Session, but in 2012, hopefully, their numbers can grow to more substantial levels as the RINO's are ousted.

2 posted on 02/09/2011 5:40:56 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Graneros

Boehner should put up a sign:

“Defectors will be Primaried”


3 posted on 02/09/2011 5:41:44 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Graneros

anything less than $100 billion is unacceptable.


4 posted on 02/09/2011 5:45:01 PM PST by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Graneros

I’m amazed.

No, not amazed at the defections...

Amazed that it took the RINOs this long to start defecting.


5 posted on 02/09/2011 5:45:13 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Graneros

$32 billion, $100 billion, no difference.

If the first cuts are not at least $750 billion, the Republicans should hang it uo.


6 posted on 02/09/2011 5:45:35 PM PST by Jim Noble (Reelect Palin 2016)
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To: bigbob

I believe that Boehner is being disobeyed by his conservative flank. Would that there were 200 of such people.


7 posted on 02/09/2011 5:47:01 PM PST by lurk
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To: Graneros

Anything less than $500 billion is unacceptable.

Boehner’s only where he is because of the tea party reinvigoration of the GOP. He should think about that.


8 posted on 02/09/2011 5:50:46 PM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: bigbob; ebshumidors; SeekAndFind; MamaDearest; JLAGRAYFOX; unkus; Todd Kinsey; callisto; ...

Big announcement in DC:

The Tea Party will deal with RINO’s and RAT’s in November 2012.

That’s a promise We The People fully intend to keep and are working on at this very minute.


9 posted on 02/09/2011 5:55:07 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: traditional1; Graneros; bravo whiskey
Boehner has 100 days to prove his leadership.
If he continues as he seems to be doing (acting as chief RINO) then I will call for a vote of No Confidence and his removal as SOTH.

We TeaPartisans have more clout then the LSM will give us credit BUT the House non-RINOs ((RINOs are in the typical Liberal miasma and can't get us into their worldview)) know who we are and mores the point what we can do come 2012.

10 posted on 02/09/2011 5:56:24 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: SonsOfCollins_Wallace
"mores the point what we can do come 2012"

THAT will tell the story...(the 2012 Election overall).

11 posted on 02/09/2011 6:01:48 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Graneros

No permanent damage yet—but Boehner had better get this under control quickly. And not cry about it.


12 posted on 02/09/2011 6:02:11 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Graneros

32 Billion is a drop in the bucket. They likely spend that much in 60 seconds. They must have missed that T party thing.

Pray for America


13 posted on 02/09/2011 6:04:22 PM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: bravo whiskey

No less than at least $500 Billion needs to be cut and that is just a start.


14 posted on 02/09/2011 6:07:21 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
We don't have 24 months to bring this run-away train wreck to a dead stop.
I will include Eric Cantor in this No Confidence call as he is as bad as Boehner for being a RINO.

Who or what says we TeaPartisans can't bring about a NC vote,
What law says we have to abide by some vague notion of going along with the vote in Jan that put Boehner in place.
Let him and ALL RINOs hear this message NOW !!!

15 posted on 02/09/2011 6:09:12 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: Graneros

Not renewing the Patriot Act was a big win for all of us - I don’t consider that a setback, even though Boehner was on the wrong side of that issue. I am certainly with you in my hopes of not passing a debt ceiling increase. I guess we are about to find out who has a pair, and who ..............


16 posted on 02/09/2011 6:12:42 PM PST by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: Graneros

The RINOS are no better then the Marxist, and you can count on them to browbeat the newbie Tea Party folks, aka real Americans.

What I see from afar, for America, it is all over but the shouting.


17 posted on 02/09/2011 6:15:43 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Graneros

$100B,,,, not nearly enough


18 posted on 02/09/2011 6:16:09 PM PST by joelt
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To: bigbob
Boehner should put up a sign:

“Defectors will be Primaried”

I hope all of the Republicans "defect" from Cry Baby Boehner and his effete RINO policies. He is the one who will be "primaried" if he doesn't listen to the people and push serious spending cuts.

19 posted on 02/09/2011 6:17:39 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Graneros

The “Human Tear Duct” was weak sauce from the get go. He’s got all the spine of your average earth worm.


20 posted on 02/09/2011 6:18:12 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: bigbob
Boehner should put up a sign: “Defectors will be Primaried”

It is the Tea Partiers who are defecting. 32 Billion in cuts doesn't cut it. We need DRASTIC Draconian style cuts to all departments in the Federal Government. We need to get rid of departments that duplicate State Agencies and we need to just fire about 10% of the Federal employees and remove them from their cushy pensions and put them on 401k's like the rest of us peons.

We may need a new speaker. Boehner needs to get into line and act like a leader.

21 posted on 02/09/2011 6:19:09 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: bigbob

“Boehner should put up a sign:”

Get rid of Boehner in 2012!!!!


22 posted on 02/09/2011 6:19:34 PM PST by dalereed
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To: OldNewYork
Anything less than $500 billion is unacceptable. Boehner’s only where he is because of the tea party reinvigoration of the GOP. He should think about that.

Hear! Hear! My congressman had darn well better be among the rebels opposing Boehner's budget atrocity. This country is in dire straits and sinking fast. Any so-called "Republican" who settles for only $32 billion in cuts is a turncoat, and needs to come home.

23 posted on 02/09/2011 6:21:22 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine
Hear! Hear! My congressman had darn well better be among the rebels opposing Boehner's budget atrocity. This country is in dire straits and sinking fast. Any so-called "Republican" who settles for only $32 billion in cuts is a turncoat, and needs to come home.

Even $500 billion is just Saturday afternoon at the movies money. There are going to have to be several more $500 billion cuts following it up; the debt is above $14 trillion - that's 14 thousand billion, twelve 0's after the 14.

24 posted on 02/09/2011 6:27:52 PM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: bigbob

Boehner should put up a sign:

“Defectors will be Primaried”


That would put him in line for being primaried.

It is going to take the establishment of both parties some time to realize that business as usual is over now. Americans did not like the way they were conducting business.

We are not doing massive deficits and we are not doing quick and dirty deals we have not debated and agreed upon. We are not going to automatically violate the constitution upon the whim of freaks in DC who think they are citizens of the world. Corporate and foreign welfare queens are not automatically going to get their pay-offs for fundraising support and fringe benefits.

Things are going to slow down and be more thoughtful and logical or he’s going to lose control of everything. This new hope and change will be quite a challenge for him to manage because he won’t be able to just bulldoze it with hysteria.


25 posted on 02/09/2011 6:41:38 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Graneros

Did he cry?


26 posted on 02/09/2011 6:47:40 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Graneros
"“This new breed of freshmen don’t feel any sense of accountability to party structure,” the aide said. “I think you are going to have a difference [of opinion] on a lot of things.”

Not only that, we'll destroy the entire party if necessary.

Boner and the old guard need to get with the program.

27 posted on 02/09/2011 6:48:34 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: OldNewYork

We need to totally restructure the government back to it’s constitutional realm and that is going to be the only reform that has a hope of rescuing the country in the aftermath of the train wreck called Obama (with help from Bush). The New World Order’s foreign entanglements has to go. The leadership of countries can’t even run themselves let alone the dang world.

Cutting a little out of this and that is not going to do much good now. Obama and the Congress tipped us over the edge.


28 posted on 02/09/2011 6:49:17 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: OldNewYork
"Anything less than $500 billion is unacceptable."

Anything budget that causes an annual deficit is unacceptable, which probably means over $1 Trillion needs to be cut.

Do Republicans need a Balanced Budget Amendment to force them to be responsible?!

29 posted on 02/09/2011 6:50:40 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Graneros
They had better do more than 100 billion or heads will roll..
Heads might roll anyway.. Many many are not amused anymore..

I might be jailed if the FBI could read my mind thru the tin foil..

30 posted on 02/09/2011 6:55:55 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Graneros

Here is how most people think:

1. If govt makes HUGE, Across-the-Board budget cuts, I do not much mind my govt check getting cut because everyone shares the burden and it is necessary.

2. If govt makes Small, Targeted cuts, then I will resent my govt check getting cut, because everyone else still gets their checks and it will not produce meaningful results.

Big cuts are easier than small cuts.


31 posted on 02/09/2011 7:01:48 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: traditional1

“I don’t forsee major impact at all this Session, but in 2012, hopefully, their numbers can grow to more substantial levels as the RINO’s are ousted. “

Good analysis.


32 posted on 02/09/2011 7:08:45 PM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: sergeantdave

All RINOs OUT! ALL...


33 posted on 02/09/2011 7:14:44 PM PST by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Graneros

What is needed for voters in a state that allows recall of congress critters to get mad and recall one or two of them. Make an example of them. Find a couple who have not toed the line and move to recall them. The recall attempt might not be successful but it sure would get their attention.

Even two years is too long to have a congress person doing harm and not living up to campaign promises.


34 posted on 02/09/2011 7:49:16 PM PST by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: Graneros

With a federal deficit of $1.5 trillion this year, $35 billion in cuts is a joke. A trillion dollars is a thousand billion.


35 posted on 02/09/2011 7:50:21 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: Graneros

With a federal deficit of $1.5 trillion this year, $35 billion in cuts is a joke. A trillion dollars is a thousand billion.


36 posted on 02/09/2011 7:50:31 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: Graneros

Boner seems to be proving the old notion that people rise, in management or reponsibility, to their level of incompetence...


37 posted on 02/09/2011 7:59:51 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Divisions are already surfacing over the forthcoming continuing resolution, set to come to the floor next week, which would cut federal spending by $32 billion, far less than the $100 billion that conservatives claim leaders promised during the campaign... Although conservative Republicans were among the defectors, GOP leaders disputed the notion that their decision to pull a trade bill from the floor late Tuesday and their failure to muster a two-thirds vote to pass an extension of the USA PATRIOT Act a few hours later signaled that they had lost control of the Conference.
Thanks Graneros.


38 posted on 02/09/2011 8:08:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: lurk

I think we should be worried about this scandal being reported in the National Enquirer. They are usually right and they are saying Boehner has been having affairs etc. If this turns out to be true the Dems and the MSM will have a field day with it and then Boehner will be hounded into resigning. It will cripple the GOP agenda. I just hope its not true.


39 posted on 02/09/2011 9:30:51 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Graneros

bump


40 posted on 02/09/2011 10:10:55 PM PST by VOA (`)
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To: bigbob
“Defectors will be Primaried”

I prefer “Big Spending RINO's will be Primaried

41 posted on 02/10/2011 8:45:37 AM PST by Ron H. (Impeach the dictator wannabe Impostor!!!)
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To: Graneros
DA PLAN, JOHN DA PLAN....

1. Call Wasilla and humbly ask SARAH for an audience.
2. Put on hat marked 'HUMBLE' fly to Alaska.
3. Put hat in hand...knock on SARAH'S DOOR...
4. HUMBLY ask her to caucus with Michelles Bachman and Malkin, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Rush, Victor David Hanson and John Bolton.
5. Do what they tell you to do.

RESULT: YOU'LL BE FINE AND THE USA WILL BE EVEN FINER...

No charge.

42 posted on 02/10/2011 11:45:07 AM PST by flat
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