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Nissan Leaf a comfortable, fun car to drive (For 50 Miles - Then it Dies!)
San Antonio Express News ^ | 02/13/2011 | G. Chambers Williams III

Posted on 02/14/2011 8:28:45 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: ArrogantBustard
they're plumes of condensed water vapor.

which is not water vapor at all but tiny spherical liquid water droplets that refract all wavelengths of light including infrared, very different than invisible water vapor. Water vapor has a net warming effect, most clouds a net cooling effect. That's a big difference.

Satellite Confirms Urban Heat Islands Increase Rainfall: mean monthly rainfall rates within 30-60 kilometers (18 to 36 miles) downwind of the cities were, on average, about 28 percent greater than the upwind region. In some cities, the downwind area exhibited increases as high as 51 percent.

101 posted on 02/14/2011 11:08:45 AM PST by Reeses
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To: ArrogantBustard
Fixed link: Satellite Confirms Urban Heat Islands Increase Rainfall
102 posted on 02/14/2011 11:12:53 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Responsibility2nd
I think most of the problems with the Leaf would be solved if they would call it a "Type R," slap some stickers on it and put a speaker in the back to make that fart pipe sound.
103 posted on 02/14/2011 11:17:08 AM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Reeses
water droplets that refract all wavelengths

If you wish to have credibility discussing this topic, please learn the difference between refraction and reflection.

Satellite Confirms Urban Heat Islands Increase Rainfall:

Interesting effect, but what has it to do with power plant exhaust gases?

104 posted on 02/14/2011 11:30:48 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Try using the defroster, heater, windshield wipers, air conditioner or even the radio and watch the mileage drop even faster. Imagine the range when temperatures get below freezing. If your commute is on a day with temperatures just above freezing with wet snow necessitating use of the defroster, heater and windshield wipers, better be prepared to take the bus.


105 posted on 02/14/2011 11:38:19 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: mmanager
I think I'll stick with my good 'ole American Muscle. Gas mileage sucks, emissions will choke a horse but when I hit the go peddle is sucks up leaf's with over 800 rwhp.

I hear the Corvette will even let you run the heater in freezing temperatures and not reduce your chances of making it home as a cost of warming your toes.

Ain't these new technological innovations grand?

106 posted on 02/14/2011 11:47:55 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: mmanager
Forged 402 with an 8 rib supercharger (15#’s of boost), Trickflow heads, Fast 92 intake, methanol injection, 80# injectors and headers. 237/249 114+2, 622-.628 lift cam.

URH! URH! URH! PM me pics of the beauty bits !!
107 posted on 02/14/2011 11:52:39 AM PST by stompk
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To: ArrogantBustard
please learn the difference between refraction and reflection.

Reflect is what clouds do, refract is how they do it. My goal was to point out you cannot see actual water vapor, a global warming gas, only clouds, a global cooling liquid.

108 posted on 02/14/2011 11:53:50 AM PST by Reeses
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To: The Great RJ
Try using the defroster, heater, windshield wipers, air conditioner or even the radio and watch the mileage drop even faster.

Wait till the younger gen finds out what subs and amps do to it.
109 posted on 02/14/2011 11:55:03 AM PST by stompk
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To: Reeses

OK ... would you like to address the connection (if any) between increased rainfall downwind of an urban “heat island” and power plant effluent?


110 posted on 02/14/2011 12:01:31 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I'll give you a hint, though: that plume looks like water vapor, to me.

But... don't you know that water vapor is a greenhouse gas? It's way worse than CO2, by orders of magnitudes! That just can't be good for the environment!

111 posted on 02/14/2011 12:06:24 PM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: Responsibility2nd
especially if they live, work and shop within a small area that doesn't require a lot of driving.
It's well-equipped, too, with standard features such as a navigation system, Bluetooth phone connection and automatic climate control

This doofus doesn't realize that those are contradictory statements. Short drives ---small area --- in my book is twenty miles or less.

and what idiot would need GPS and automatic climate control to commute 20 miles.
Anyone who would buy this car in snow country is about 5 cans short of a six-pack.

112 posted on 02/14/2011 12:32:51 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: from occupied ga

Decisions, Decisions.....


113 posted on 02/14/2011 12:43:43 PM PST by mowowie
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To: FrdmLvr
Yeah, it’s fun until someone hits you. Then, KABOOM! Those batteries in those cars are highly explosive. I wouldn’t want to be any where near an electric car when it gets hit.

I'm surprised it took 37 posts for the moonbats to come out of the rockpile.

Oh yeah. You forgot that the battery weighs 600 pounds, when you sell it you need to pay $20k toxic waste fee, the mine that produces the battery is a wasteland and you get acne while driving it.

Hilarious!

Name just one credible, documented case of an electric car exploding (any worse than a regular gas powered car would under similar circumstances.)

114 posted on 02/14/2011 12:43:50 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: from occupied ga

Decisions, Decisions.....


115 posted on 02/14/2011 12:44:08 PM PST by mowowie
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To: ArrogantBustard

Every watt of power eventually ends up as waste heat. Waste heat absorbed by water ends up as additional rain. Some of the waste heat is carried off by water at the power plant, some at the cities where most of the power is used. Power plant waste heat plus water has to increase rainfall.


116 posted on 02/14/2011 12:52:44 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Cheburashka
"Wait until there are four employees driving Leafs to work and only one outlet available for recharging"
117 posted on 02/14/2011 12:53:35 PM PST by mowowie
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electric cars make sense as a second/third vehicle but most people can’t afford the cost of owning two-three cars.
I could see using it to go to the store twice a week and drive the kids around town but nothing that will be longer than a ten miles each way.

It’s an awful lot of money and maintainence for a status symbol.


118 posted on 02/14/2011 12:58:50 PM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: Reeses
My goal was to point out you cannot see actual water vapor, a global warming gas

Only if you belong to Gore's Universal Church of Global Warming...

119 posted on 02/14/2011 1:00:03 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Reeses
I see ... you really don't have any science to back it up; it's just a hypothesis on your part.

That's fine if you don't claim otherwise.

120 posted on 02/14/2011 1:04:48 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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