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Nissan Leaf a comfortable, fun car to drive (For 50 Miles - Then it Dies!)
San Antonio Express News ^ | 02/13/2011 | G. Chambers Williams III

Posted on 02/14/2011 8:28:45 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

If work is 30 minutes away or less - an electric car would make sense. Any longer than that, forget it.

Its not ready for long range, real world driving.


41 posted on 02/14/2011 8:59:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Somebody in England did a story some weeks back about a journey undertaken with an electric car from London to Edinburgh (about 330 miles). It took four days or, as the reported indicated, longer than a similar trip by stagecoach used to take.

ML/NJ

42 posted on 02/14/2011 9:00:07 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Moose4

I have two F150s (300 6 cyl) which don’t get terrible gas mileage.

When I go to the upper peninsula I get out in the sticks miles from anywhere. A leaf isn’t going to get me there and if it did it wouldn’t get me home.


43 posted on 02/14/2011 9:00:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Article reminds me of something Jay Leno said on a recent episode of NOVA...”Electric cars are like sex. Everybody lies.” (this part I’ll paraphrase) “They all tell you, ‘100 miles!’ but 43 miles later, I’m stranded.”


44 posted on 02/14/2011 9:00:43 AM PST by Roccus (Joe Biden.....America's only living brain donor.)
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To: csmusaret
Wait till he tries to make a commute in zero degree weather. Wonder how long his battery will last then?

How about freezing rain with no defrosters? You can either see or actually get home.
45 posted on 02/14/2011 9:00:59 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Charles Martel
I thought it got the message across.

What message do you think it gets across?

46 posted on 02/14/2011 9:01:21 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RobRoy

The new xB...yeah, I can’t figure why they grew it so much when it was so popular as a small car. Seems like you might as well get a Pilot or Element or CR-V or RAV4 now.

The Nissan CVT takes some getting used to. I’ve rented two cars with it (that Cube and a Sentra with the same 1.8L powertrain) and what I found is that if you just lightly give it throttle off the line, it hits a dead spot about 20 mph when the tranny seems to come out of “low” and into its normal variable range. If you don’t mind annoying the people behind you, you can featherfoot it and get amazing economy around town. If you need actual acceleration, just step down on it and it does surprisingly well.

The other thing I learned with that CVT is that you *never* take the overdrive off at highway speed. On most autos, if you pop off the O/D, it’s in third gear. On that CVT, if you do it, it might as well be in SECOND. I did it once for giggles on the freeway at about 60 mph and was rather surprised to suddenly be howling along at almost 5000 rpm.

The other weird thing about the Cube aside from the looks and CVT is the steering. It’s got electric power steering, not hydraulic. Around town, it’s fantastic...perfect feel, perfect weight, turns on a dime, never kicks back, no squealing power steering pumps or grinding when you get to a lock. On the highway, it gets a bit odd, like you’re turning a force-feedback game controller, because you don’t get as much feedback from the road. It only took a few miles to get used to, but it was definitely a different feel than normal hydraulic power steering.

}:-)4


47 posted on 02/14/2011 9:03:21 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Lost Highway

And, not just a little bit, like say an FM clock radio. I bet the charging system draws some serious amperage.


48 posted on 02/14/2011 9:05:07 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: GonzoGOP

“And how long is it going to be that your office lets you sponge free electricity off of them? When it is one employee they may look the other way. But if you had a bunch of greenies ripping off your electricity the plug is going to get pulled.”

Let’s see. How will that work out?

Hmmmm. Perhaps a federal law requiring all employers . . . . You know it’s coming.


49 posted on 02/14/2011 9:05:26 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: denydenydeny
I drove a $150 72 Pontiac Catalina to Texas and back from Michigan.

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50 posted on 02/14/2011 9:05:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Moose4

So the steering is literally “drive by wire”?

That is kinda scary.


51 posted on 02/14/2011 9:07:10 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I think every liberal who is promoting these types of vehicles should have to purchase and drive one exclusively.

That includes you, ZerO.

52 posted on 02/14/2011 9:08:21 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Moose4

I should have asked for clarification on the steering of the cube. Is it electric assist, or pure electric “drive by wire”?


53 posted on 02/14/2011 9:08:31 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Responsibility2nd

We live 22 miles from town. No, thanks...


54 posted on 02/14/2011 9:12:13 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: RobRoy

It’s not really “drive by wire,” it’s just electrically assisted instead of hydraulically:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_steering#Electric_systems

A lot of cars are using it now, mostly small ones but I’ve seen where Chevy has a couple of full-size Silverado proof-of-concept test vehicles with electric power steering. I like the concept, it seems like there’s less stuff to go wrong and less parasitic losses on the engine with no hydraulic pump to drive.

}:-)4


55 posted on 02/14/2011 9:13:12 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/faq/list/charging#/leaf-electric-car/faq/list/charging

A FAQ on charging. $2.71 and it takes 20 hours to charge? ??

As a comparison, I have a diesel pickup and it costs $1.00 to plug the block heater in for 14 hours or so overnight. I’ve never done this math, I have just deduced it from actual bills.


56 posted on 02/14/2011 9:15:41 AM PST by IamConservative (Liberalism - the surety of knowing that which cannot be proven.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My quotes in Post #44 are a little off. Here is that episode of NOVA.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1768954299/

The Leno segment starts at the 4:30 mark and goes for about 4 minutes.


57 posted on 02/14/2011 9:15:41 AM PST by Roccus (Joe Biden.....America's only living brain donor.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Wait until they get the first electric bills....

Mike

58 posted on 02/14/2011 9:17:29 AM PST by MichaelP ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: cripplecreek
If my Ford Exloder is too much of a hassle to be fixed, I'm considering buying a 1985 Olds Cutlass Ciera in good shape. Should save gas, it has the 4 cyklider GM Iron Duke, only 90 hp, but I'm not out to win Daytona either. Betwee that and the Leaf, Oldsmobile wins hands down.

BTW, when I was little, we had a 1973 Pontiac Catalina.
59 posted on 02/14/2011 9:21:43 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
…and has no tailpipe emissions, because it has no tailpipe…

Ah, the inquisitive, scientific mind of a journalist.

60 posted on 02/14/2011 9:21:43 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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