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Defector admits to WMD lies that triggered Iraq war
The Guardian ^ | 02/15/2011 | Martin Chulov

Posted on 02/15/2011 11:17:01 AM PST by speciallybland

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To: Captain Kirk

They did have WMDs captain. You can look it up.


61 posted on 02/15/2011 12:59:22 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: sickoflibs

We evacuated buildings in DC due to anthrax contamination. I’m not saying that Saddam had anything to do with this, OK?

If the other stuff was not a threat, they sure were jumpy about a little anthrax.

Our troops went in wearing chem suits. Saddam’s soldiers had chem suits. Saddam had used chemical weapons against his people. We were depending on an inept and compromised UN inspection team to gauge if Saddam had WMD. Clinton allowed Saddam to kicked out the UN team and Saddam had five years to hide his operations. We had just suffered the worst attack on the mainland we had seen since the British.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/


62 posted on 02/15/2011 1:09:50 PM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: listenhillary
RE :”We evacuated buildings in DC due to anthrax contamination. I’m not saying that Saddam had anything to do with this, OK? If the other stuff was not a threat, they sure were jumpy about a little anthrax.

Let me put it this way, if Bush Admin had only used the chemical weapons as the stated reason (to congress and the UN) for invading he would have saved himself and fellow Republicans lots of grief and loss of credibility. It was the talk of the Mushroom clouds over US cities on the Sunday show's that got everyones attention, and stayed in their memories; not Anthrax (or Mustard) clouds over US cities. Anthrax made a good $$ news story, but it wasnt going to take out a City. That difference explains Bush's comments:

Bush: My biggest regret is false intelligence on Iraq WMDs (Bush told ABC "World News" in an interview December 2008)

63 posted on 02/15/2011 1:21:48 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: speciallybland
The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons programme has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.

Wait a minute. I thought we went to war with Iraq because of 9/11.

Why can't the Corrupt Bass Turds on The Professional Left keep their stories straight?

64 posted on 02/15/2011 1:23:57 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: driftdiver

I am witness to the mass graves south of Baghdad holding the bodies of thousands of men women and children.. wonder what capt kirk is witness to???? What was used to murder thousands of Kurds in northern Iraq. Hmmmmmm


65 posted on 02/15/2011 1:25:36 PM PST by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: jesseam

Anyone who argues that Iraq didnt have WMD is living in fantasy land.

Or a liar.


66 posted on 02/15/2011 1:27:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: sickoflibs

Condoleaza Rice

“”The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.”

We certainly don’t but that statement doesn’t imply that Saddam had nuclear weapons.


67 posted on 02/15/2011 1:33:05 PM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: listenhillary
RE :”Condoleaza Rice “”The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” We certainly don’t but that statement doesn’t imply that Saddam had nuclear weapons

Cheney made a similar statement. Such statement sounded good at the time, but later ~ 2006 served Democrats into turning Bush into a national joke. WMDs replaced “I did not have sex with that woman” in popular culture. You can see it in the isolationism that has even gripped much of the current Republican party.(it's Economy related too)

68 posted on 02/15/2011 1:46:29 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

What can I say? Some people wallow in their derangement.


69 posted on 02/15/2011 1:52:40 PM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: speciallybland

What about the 500 tons of yellow cake uranium? That would have made one hell of a dirty bomb!


Two sources that verify -

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-07/us/iraq.uranium_1_yellowcake-uranium-cameco?_s=PM:US


And the link to the FreeRepublic discussion -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2117840/posts


70 posted on 02/15/2011 1:55:17 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: sickoflibs

It’s easy being a back seat driver when 300 million people are not depending on you to defend their country.


71 posted on 02/15/2011 2:05:31 PM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: little jeremiah

Greetings back at ya!


72 posted on 02/15/2011 2:18:56 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Captain Kirk; skeeter

Given that the Ba’athist regime’s cat-and-mouse games with the U.N. weapons inspectors were (1) a violation of the Gulf War armistice and (2) prima facia evidence of an Iraqi WMD program of some sort, accepting “Curveball’s” testimony at face-value hardly seems like dishonesty on the part of the Bush administration. Particularly so in light of the undoubted fact that the Iraqi Ba’athists had a long-standing record using chemical weapons (both against their own citizens and in the Iran-Iraq are of the 1980’s) and of attempting to acquire nuclear weapons (remember the Osirak reactor?).

Strange attempt on your part to blame Bush for acting on reasonable intelligence analysis to protect U.S. interests.

I was mostly just jibing at the left for not knowing the difference between lying and being mistaken. Assuming, of course, “Curveball’s” lies notwithstanding, that Bush was mistaken.

There are Wikileaks documents indicating small WMD finds after the invasion and as recently as 2008, the satellite imagery of large numbers of trucks crossing into Syria and returning just before the invasion, the fact that troops at the time of the invasion had trouble finding any tank-trucks in Iraq which hadn’t been washed out with gasoline, and — something I followed very closely at the time — a large cache of drums which tested positive as nerve agents, but were later declared to have been organophosphate pesticides. Never found out which pesticide: if it was tetraethyl pyrophosphate (TEPP) — banned in the U.S. and classified as a potential terrorist weapon by Canadian intelligence — it might have been stockpiled as a WMD that could be shrugged off as “agricultural chemicals” if inspectors found it. The stockpile was on military reserve, not an agricultural facility. There is something odd about a large stockpile
of heavy duty insecticide on a military reserve.


73 posted on 02/15/2011 4:15:03 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: listenhillary
RE :”It’s easy being a back seat driver when 300 million people are not depending on you to defend their country.

Of course now the car has been COMPLETELY taken off the road so it's not backseat driving. I am sure you don't mind when I am critical of Obama when he claims that all the experts say the stimulus created jobs. I like to have a sense of consistency with my views.

You have a very tough sell. The driver you are trying to defend to the end below pulled the carpet out from your under your arguments (which I heard first on Hannity and Levin) in this interview :
Bush: My biggest regret is false intelligence on Iraq WMDs (Bush told ABC "World News" in an interview December 2008)

It's like he didnt get the Hannity/Levin memo

74 posted on 02/15/2011 5:32:48 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

Did he admit to lying about Iraq WMD? We did what we could with what we knew at the time.

All through this thread are reports of chemical weapons found. Should we have not taken Saddam out? Admit we were p*ssy whipped by those that threatened us?


75 posted on 02/15/2011 6:11:26 PM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: Captain Kirk

“Everyone” did not believe they had WMD”

The dead Kurds believed. Everyone of them. DA


76 posted on 02/15/2011 6:17:38 PM PST by Lower55
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To: listenhillary; Captain Kirk; calcowgirl; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; AuntB; mkjessup; ...
RE :”We did what we could with what we knew at the time. All through this thread are reports of chemical weapons found. Should we have not taken Saddam out? Admit we were p*ssy whipped by those that threatened us?

Ever since Obama’s elected I been doing posts and vanities making fun of democrat lame excuses for failures. If I repeated similar excuses for Bush that I beat on Obama for using now I would feel like a phony. This is one reason I cant stand Hannity. Here's from a post I did of Matthews making very similar excuses for Obama as with Bush claiming the ‘experts’ told him to do what he did:

He took action — bold action — the action prescribed by the best economic minds following the best thinking there is in economics since the 1930s.First, even before taking office, he backed up his predecessor in preventing a major collapse in the financial industry. Everyone involved said it had to be done to avoid catastrophe, the destruction of our country`s financial spine....Second, he took the action, again, boldly, to powerful offset the white knuckle drop in consumer spending and business investment. If he hadn`t, no one, including his worst critics, have any idea what would have befallen us.
MSNBC Chris Matthews, 10/7/2010 ('Obama did what needed to be done, like FDR')

Ironically Matthews ripped Bush for years for using excuses that he now himself uses to defend Obama. I dont have an ounce of respect for Matthews or Hannity. They are two sides of the same coin.

77 posted on 02/15/2011 7:44:48 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

9/11 attack. You’re in charge. Your plan please. You have no intel of what Saddam has been up to for four years. You go after the terrorists and their training centers in Afghanistan. Documented terrorist training centers are in Iraq, he has killed several hundrend thousand of his own people. He sends funds to surviving families of Palestinian bombers. He has violated most of the cease fire terms that he agreed to at the end of the Iraqi war in 1991.

You have pressed the UN for more than six months insisting that they take action. They don’t. Saddam is used to inactions and strongly worded letters from the former president. Saddam toys with the compromised inspection team that finally finally gives up. He ignores your final chance to come clean by accounting for the unaccounted for UN documented weapons.

You say. OK I’ll take your word for it. You win, we will continue with the strongly worded letters and the oil for food scandal to keep the UN in Armani suits.

You notice, that I don’t ping supporters to gang up?


78 posted on 02/15/2011 8:01:35 PM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: listenhillary

RE :”You notice, that I don’t ping supporters to gang up?”

Hopefully that wont happen. You have been civil. I think they have moved beyond Bush and Iraq.

I just thought that comment deserved someone who might read it to get pinged too.


79 posted on 02/15/2011 8:07:45 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: listenhillary
I appreciate you putting me in the White House even though I never considered running. But my role is voter not president, that allows me to be critical of Obama as with Bush when they screw up. Honestly, I was a true Bush believer during his first term and used to argue as you do. But that was a long time ago.

On another note I had this to do:
The Education Bubble Is Fuel for Revolt (nothing the government provides is ever free.)

80 posted on 02/15/2011 8:28:00 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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