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China Rail Chief’s Firing Hints at Trouble
new york times ^ | 2/17/11 | MICHAEL WINES and KEITH BRADSHER

Posted on 02/19/2011 11:10:29 AM PST by mathprof

In his seven years as chief of the Chinese Railways Ministry, Liu Zhijun built a commercial and political colossus that spanned continents and elevated the lowly train to a national symbol of pride and technological prowess.

His abrupt sacking by the Communist Party is casting that empire in a decidedly different light, raising doubts not only about Mr. Liu’s stewardship and the corruption that dogs China’s vast public-works projects, but also, perhaps, the safety, financial soundness and long-term viability of a rail system that has captured the world’s attention.

Mr. Liu, 58, was fired Saturday and is being investigated by the party’s disciplinary committee for “severe violations of discipline,” a euphemism for corruption. His high government rank — minister-level officials are rarely fired under such a cloud — hints at far deeper dissatisfaction with one of China’s most publicized and sweeping domestic initiatives.

Until last week, Mr. Liu had led China’s program to lace the nation with nearly 8,100 miles of high-speed rail lines and to build more than 11,000 miles of traditional railroad lines. The sheer size and cost of the endeavor — the investment has been estimated at $750 billion, some $395 billion for high-speed rail alone — has led experts to compare it to the transcontinental railroad that opened the American West.

President Obama hailed China’s program in his State of the Union address and called for the United States to move quickly on high-speed rail plans that had been repeatedly delayed by budget concerns and political infighting.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china
So the China rail system that Obama mentioned in his WTF speech isn't really "winning the future".
1 posted on 02/19/2011 11:10:32 AM PST by mathprof
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To: GeronL

Choo Choo Ping.

A certain exiled FReeper shall be deeply saddened.


2 posted on 02/19/2011 11:15:22 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mathprof
corruption that dogs China’s vast public-works projects

That's what "winning the future" means to Democrats.

3 posted on 02/19/2011 11:15:58 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: mathprof

The problem with a rail system for so vast an area as China is that, first, it is indeed vast, and, second, rail cannot be easily adapted to technological changes.


4 posted on 02/19/2011 11:16:16 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies ('And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?' Yeats)
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To: Army Air Corps
Has the unionist plant Willie Green, enamored with socialism and high-speed trains, finally been suspended?
5 posted on 02/19/2011 11:21:24 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: mathprof

Our high speed rail is the 737.


6 posted on 02/19/2011 11:39:32 AM PST by jpsb
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To: mathprof
Mr. Liu, 58, was fired Saturday and is being investigated by the party’s disciplinary committee for “severe violations of discipline,” a euphemism for embarrassing the party with a bad comb-over.

WOW, they are serious about party image!

7 posted on 02/19/2011 11:44:16 AM PST by mewykwistmas ("If the Egyptians are hungry, let them eat ethanol")
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To: Army Air Corps

Saddened?? Hell’s bells, Willie jumped the first jet to Beijing to apply for the job.


8 posted on 02/19/2011 11:45:33 AM PST by SAJ (Saddened)
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To: mathprof

China is a heavily populated country. Rail would be viable for the eastern third of the nation where most of the 1 billion people live. That makes it very different from America.


9 posted on 02/19/2011 11:47:29 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mathprof
BTW the ONLY reason Obama loves rail is that it means union control, and, as the uber community/union/communist organizer, that means power and money to HIM.

But as usual, his idea of winning the future means a one-way ticket to the past.

10 posted on 02/19/2011 11:48:34 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies ('And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?' Yeats)
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To: Army Air Corps
A certain exiled FReeper shall be deeply saddened

Self-exiled along with a modest opus

11 posted on 02/19/2011 11:53:30 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: TopQuark
Has the unionist plant Willie Green, enamored with socialism and high-speed trains, finally been suspended?

He self-immolated.
12 posted on 02/19/2011 12:32:52 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: dennisw

Yeah, it wasn’t even a really good opus.


13 posted on 02/19/2011 12:34:28 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: SAJ

I wonder what his new Chinese name is...


14 posted on 02/19/2011 12:35:31 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mathprof; All

But...But...I thought Communist China was the economic engine of the world? They were superior to the USA...as the supporters of Free Trade with Communist China always told us

I guess more spin from the Free Trade Communists


15 posted on 02/19/2011 12:40:56 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Newt Gingrich and Chris Matthews: Seperated at Birth??)
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To: Army Air Corps

Hung Chow?


16 posted on 02/19/2011 12:53:46 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Applied Christianity;a study in spiritual fiber optics connecting God's love to man!)
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To: Army Air Corps

How about just Hung Liu?


17 posted on 02/19/2011 12:56:44 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Applied Christianity;a study in spiritual fiber optics connecting God's love to man!)
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To: mathprof
A person with ties to the ministry said that the concrete bases for the system’s tracks were so cheaply made, with inadequate use of chemical hardening agents, that trains would be unable to maintain their current speeds of about 217 miles per hour for more than a few years

If you think this is bad news, wait until Three Gorges Dam begins to leak...

I read about this rail fiasco on an investment website, where they really try to get it right. They said the system is deeply in the red because few Chinese can afford to ride the bullet.

18 posted on 02/19/2011 6:47:07 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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