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Iranian Vessels Which Crossed Suez Canal Carry "Advanced Hezbollah Weapons" -- Israel
KUNA ^ | February 23, 2011

Posted on 02/23/2011 4:36:38 AM PST by Strategy

The two Iranian naval ships which crossed the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean Tuesday morning are carrying "advanced Hezbollah weapons," Maariv Israeli paper reported on Wednesday, citing sources.

The sources told the paper, "Estimates indicate the two ships are carrying missiles of different range, rifles, ammunition, and night-vision gear... The voyage of the two ships is an Iranian attempt to go around the arms embargo on Hezbollah."

The paper also said that it is believed the voyage is an attempt on the part of the Iranians to "test the waters" with and gauge the responses of the Egyptian Supreme Military Council and its stance towards Tehran.

(Excerpt) Read more at kuna.net.kw ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: iran; islam; israel; middleeast; suezcanal
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To: Hardraade

Doesn’t matter. Israel had ~400 nukes back in 2002, and it’s certainly not less now - probably 600-900. That places Israel on the same order aas the “big 5” - the US, Russia, France, Britain and China. Actually, it ranks behind only the US and Russia.

Which means that Israel has long since achieved overkill. Old term, not much used anymore. But erasing every islamic filth-hole from the face of the planet is eminently doable and might even, to the more bloodthirsty among us, be great fun.


I think a lot of them are smaller yield, tactical weapons. I don’think they have “overkill” for the entirety of the enemy base. “Overkill” is related to big strategic devices, lots of fallout, post-Apocalyptic semi-existence, early Mel Gibson movies, in short, a single warhead that can ruin your whole day.


41 posted on 02/23/2011 6:46:23 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: SF_Redux

What everyone knows but no one will say.


42 posted on 02/23/2011 7:03:34 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Strategy
We went through a detailed discussion on this topic last week. As indicated previously, the Suez Canal is protected by international treaty -- and as such, nobody (including the Egyptian government) has the authority to prevent any vessels from using it.

Kinda makes me wonder why anyone would be making a big deal out of nothing.

43 posted on 02/23/2011 7:13:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Strategy

You can be 100% sure that the Israelies are using the MSM and press releases to their advantage. They have gotta have the highest IQs of all the mid-east countries. Everything you hear is carefully manipulated I am sure.


44 posted on 02/23/2011 7:14:20 AM PST by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: SF_Redux

You’re a fool.

You have no business talking about overthrowing the government on this site. Advocating violence is against the site rules and that is written right below the post button when you write your comment.

You’ve lost your bloody mind if you think the brain-dead hordes in Chicago weren’t hap-hap-happy to vote for Rahmbo deadfish. IT’S FREAKIN’ CHICAGO!!


45 posted on 02/23/2011 7:18:24 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: PaleoBob
I think a lot of them are smaller yield, tactical weapons. I don’think they have “overkill” for the entirety of the enemy base. “Overkill” is related to big strategic devices

Yes, they are. And a lot of them are "clean" devices with little radiation, in fact some rumours back in 2002 was that they had managed directional blasts. But that doesn't mean they haven't beefed up the armory with high-effect thermonukes for that kind of use, the probability that they have is quite large. Israeli military thinking has explored this a lot, see Samson option and Yoram Ettinger.

Overkill in the old-time, MAD context is the treshhold for eradication of humanity in total. The old MAD days had another, more interesting doctrine buried in all the stuff: personal targetting. Target the known location of a head of state with enough megatonnage to be sure to get him, if collateral is 100.000 dead or a million dead.

46 posted on 02/23/2011 7:27:58 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: PIF
“...the course set by Bibi and Barach...”

Are you sure about that? I've always regarded Netanyahu a ‘wise as a serpent’ type of leader who committed to the security of Israel.

Plus the way he was treated by Obama was inexcusable, to say the least.

47 posted on 02/23/2011 7:28:54 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Strategy

Isn’t “Advanced Hezbollah weapons” sort of an oxymoron? What are they - bigger rocks?


48 posted on 02/23/2011 7:48:29 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Strategy

Well if that’s truly the case, then there’s NO reason not to sink them. None.


49 posted on 02/23/2011 7:51:11 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Flight 800 thing continues to amaze me. Any bomb or missile that caused the explosion would have had to violate the laws of physics, but people will still tell you that the really crazy theory is that a palne with 93,000 flight hours would have a mechanical failure.


50 posted on 02/23/2011 7:52:58 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: freedomwarrior998
So will you be leading the insurrection? If so, why are you waiting? If not, who are you waiting for?

I'll second those questions.

51 posted on 02/23/2011 7:55:07 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: freedomwarrior998
So will you be leading the insurrection? If so, why are you waiting? If not, who are you waiting for?

I'll second those questions.

52 posted on 02/23/2011 8:00:09 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Interesting perspective on Flight 800. For one thing, I'm not sure the "missile theory" would involve something that violates the laws of physics. Secondly, the "mechanical failure" theory as described by the FBI and NTSB sure as heck DID violate the laws of physics.

I mean, it's not as if there hasn't been accidental or deliberate downings of commercial aircraft around the world over the years!

53 posted on 02/23/2011 8:09:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Strategy

When GW was president, the Israelis captured the Karine A and proved that Arafat was a liar and that the Iranians were supplying the Palis with weapons.

But under Obama, Israel knows all they will get is UN, US, and European condemnation and disbelief.

I pray we make it to 2012.


54 posted on 02/23/2011 8:18:44 AM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: Strategy

Senior official in Damascus says two naval ships passing through Suez Canal docked Lattakia Port in Syria.

Iranian navy commander expected to arrive in Damascus with military delegation later today.


55 posted on 02/23/2011 8:42:34 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Mr. Silverback

thank you dear nanny


56 posted on 02/23/2011 8:54:44 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Mr. Silverback; freedomwarrior998

going to be afraid to voice your own opinions forever?

those “ questions” are right up there with

” if you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich? “

as good as any liberals I ever read


57 posted on 02/23/2011 8:57:55 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: SF_Redux

Ad Hominem.


58 posted on 02/23/2011 9:02:54 AM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: Strategy
I wonder about the source of this information and the reliability of the report. Not suggesting it is false, but we hear contradicting stories almost daily. Just yesterday, Israel allegedly advised that the Iranian ships presented no harm. Suddenly, today they are carrying weapons for Hezbollah.

Generally speaking, when a lot of information comes out of Israel regarding a military threat, you hear about it after they strike at someone. Not before. Keep that in mind. I tend to believe the earlier reports where no concrete threat exists. Testing the waters, absolutely.

59 posted on 02/23/2011 9:04:54 AM PST by mikhailovich
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To: freedomwarrior998

The ad hominem is a classic logical fallacy,[2] but it is not always fallacious; in some instances, questions of personal conduct, character, motives, etc., are legitimate and relevant to the issue.[3


60 posted on 02/23/2011 9:17:43 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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